tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post3905663762222634508..comments2023-12-29T00:19:54.130-08:00Comments on Liberated: The only freedom which is NOT AVAILABLE to me in this country is changing my religion and announcing my apostasyLiberated Onehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12033054482768383889noreply@blogger.comBlogger176125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-19493485306948572252017-12-28T13:39:23.281-08:002017-12-28T13:39:23.281-08:00It's been 5 years since we last heard from &qu...It's been 5 years since we last heard from "Liberated". Robert Spencer and that other Counter-Jihad guy (can't remember, was it Ibn Warraq or Ali Sina?) claimed at the time to be in contact with her and to know more particulars. Yet they, and "liberated" herself, have been mysteriously silent these past 5 years as to what happened to her. One gets an ominous sinking feeling, knowing her plight, and the danger of an ex-Muslim not only in a Muslim country but still in contact with her Muslim family, when we know how many Muslims kill their own family members for "honor crimes" such as "Liberated" according to her own testimony was "guilty" of (not to mention she seemed to recklessly rub their faces in it, by inviting her Infidel boyfriend over to family dinner, etc.).<br /><br />So what happened? And why hasn't anyone (except me) mentioned this in the past 5 years?Hesperadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10394374828751466705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-29212327446152641492012-01-15T08:12:10.442-08:002012-01-15T08:12:10.442-08:00I definitely can argue in favor of his comments. T...I definitely can argue in favor of his comments. The proof is in the pudding so to speak. Islam calls for violence and a total take over of the world. You justify your violence against others using your Koran directives. You believe this is what God Almighty is calling you to, which seems right in your mind. The fruit of your faith in this way, is 911, 7/7, Madrid, Fort Hood, etc, etc. etc. all over this world. Violence and death is the fruit.redrubyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04555657067521608110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-65473897006082111512012-01-15T07:51:58.897-08:002012-01-15T07:51:58.897-08:00Its like being an actor or actress everywhere she ...Its like being an actor or actress everywhere she goes. She has to play the part of a Muslim, but in her heart she isnt one. That scene would evidently drive you crazy. It would be impossible to keep up dont you think? She has no vocal voice with her family, friends and workers around her. She would constantly have to be silent, or worse pretend she was one of them when in truth she wasnt. That is no way to live. She will burn out evidently, and have to finally get off that fence. Its leaving all behind, and going totally forward into a new life and way. When I become a Christian, I had to leave my family loyalties, to follow Jesus. My family didnt exactly forsake me totally, but I couldnt talk about my new found faith with them. I prayed, walk with Jesus daily, and saw them finally turn around, commit their lives to Jesus Christ and embrace faith in Him. That was the greatest day of my life here on planet earth. But because I live in a civilized, free society, I was never in danger of death for believing in another faith, as this woman is. Islam is pure evil. She will evidently struggle with this issue, and she is in my prayers.redrubyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04555657067521608110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-7250007757747572252012-01-14T08:37:36.173-08:002012-01-14T08:37:36.173-08:00Everyone starts their journey to true freedom at d...Everyone starts their journey to true freedom at different places. Its a divine intervention anywhere you are found by God Almighty. He starts with you, where you are. Don't be so quick to judge this woman. She has taken a bold step in her heart and life. Yes, many suffer right from the start, and some don't. But you are not the Judge e9. Let the Lord instruct and guide her, as He has began, He will finish His work in her.redrubyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04555657067521608110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-34832027942265624592012-01-03T01:35:08.085-08:002012-01-03T01:35:08.085-08:00In the Qur'an Allah says that if Muhammad were...<b>In the Qur'an Allah says that if Muhammad were to lie about Allah, Allah would cut Muhammad's aorta; canonical ahadith say that as Muhammad died, he felt as if his aorta were being cut</b> (hat tip to David Woods of answeringmuslims.com)<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.cmje.org/religious-texts/quran/verses/069-qmt.php#069.044" rel="nofollow">Qur'an 69:44-46:</a> <br /><br />"<i>And if he had fabricated against Us some of the sayings,<br />We would certainly have seized him by the right hand,<br />Then We would certainly have <b>cut off his aorta."</b></i><br /><br />-------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />From Sahih Bukhari, the most canonical hadith collection: <br /><br /><a href="http://www.cmje.org/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/059-sbt.php#005.059.713" rel="nofollow">Volume 5, Book 59, Number 713:</a><br /><br /><i>Narrated Ibn Abbas</i> [a companion of Muhammad]:<br /><br /><i>"...Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, 'O Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, <b>I feel as if my aorta is being cut</b> from that poison.' "</i><br /><br />-----------<br /><br />See also <a href="http://www.cmje.org/religious-texts/hadith/abudawud/039-sat.php#039.4498" rel="nofollow">Book 39, Number 4498</a> from canonical hadith collection Sunan Abu Dawud.Traehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09997009621742454158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-55681745367348037242012-01-02T19:50:16.035-08:002012-01-02T19:50:16.035-08:00Hi Shakila, This is Sam (Indian Hindu) from Canada...Hi Shakila, This is Sam (Indian Hindu) from Canada. Now that you have taken this extremely brave step of apostatizing from Islam (Riddah) even upon the fear of death, how do you see the whole Pakistani/Islamist perspective on Kashmir and proxy war against India? And how do you feel about the demonization of Hindus (specifically) in Pakistani textbooks?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-44452827036766305542012-01-01T06:10:10.791-08:002012-01-01T06:10:10.791-08:00Thanks for your kind words Liberated One.
Best wi...Thanks for your kind words Liberated One.<br /><br />Best wishes for a Happy New Year and inner peace in your struggles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-6447249564210323482012-01-01T03:13:16.239-08:002012-01-01T03:13:16.239-08:00To those who were mocking the thought that Muslim ...To those who were mocking the thought that Muslim women wanted non-Muslim hudands, let me share why. <br /><br />Christianity: One man, one woman, become one in the yes of God as they are joined in flesh. The Bible commands the man to Love his wife as Christ loves His Church. For richer or for poorer, for sickness and in health, till death do us apart. <br /><br />Islam: One man, multiple wives if you aren't satisfied with one. Marriage is a "serious contract" signed with God. Divorce can occur by simply uttering "You are Divorced". If the wife turns out to be infertile, or falls ill, the man doesn't have to stick to her, there is no "in sickness and in health", when she's ill he has the chance and the justification to go and remarry.<br /><br />Sure, there are bad Christian men as there are bad Muslim men, but we are comparing marriage in both religions, and honestly, Islam loses there.<br /><br />Muslim women <b>know</b> that all Muslim men see it as their God-given right to have more than one wife. They know that marriage in Islam is temporary as the man can end it by uttering "You are Divorced" if he thought she put too much salt in the food.<br /><br />This is one of the many reasons even I, as a former Muslim, used to wish I would never end up with a religious Muslim. Same with my Muslim friends, who wished they would find a completely secular Muslim who would not follow the Qur'an. <br /><br />Now, as you see, Shakila took a further step and left Islam alltogether. Who needs this kind of religion that makes a woman feel less, makes a man feel like he has to be an eternal asshole to satisfy God? It's terrible for both men and women and I feel sorry for everyone whose life has been damaged because of Islam.Talithahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08846974915557266099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-7642302821872989142011-12-31T23:55:44.351-08:002011-12-31T23:55:44.351-08:00Talitha,
I agree with almost all of that, includi...Talitha,<br /><br />I agree with almost all of that, including your implication that reform within Islam on this issue does not seem likely. But my response to your previous statement was just a narrow or technical one about what the actual text of the Quran says and omits, as distinguished from interpretations derived for Islamic law (which also draws on sources outside the Quran such as the Hadiths).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-80689741089029389392011-12-31T21:28:48.104-08:002011-12-31T21:28:48.104-08:00Greenforest,
Of course you may argue that (about...<b>Greenforest</b>, <br /><br />Of course you may argue that (about the interfaith marriages) but on grounds of reality the leading "interpretation" is that the Qur'an forbids this marriage. It is like the issue with Hijab which has not been explicitly endorsed though interpretations make it so. <br /><br />And both are "widespread rules issued on the consensus of the Ulama" as claimed by those who defend it.<br /><br />Can we sit and argue that the Qur'an does not forbid interfaith marriages for women? Sure! Will that change reality that they won't be allowed anyway, and in cases be disowned for defying what is set as the rule? I'm afraid not.Talithahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08846974915557266099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-25583822317769785122011-12-31T18:32:14.834-08:002011-12-31T18:32:14.834-08:00Hesperado,
You wrote:
"The reputation of Sp...Hesperado,<br /><br />You wrote:<br /><br />"The reputation of Spencer in this regard (and the potential of a hoax damaging that reputation) is, tragically, more important than the alleged veracity of an apostate's personal saga. This is precisely the kind of hard choice a society has to make, repeatedly in various ways, when at war."<br /><br />I agree. And yet in this case we should not have to make such a choice, because Robert and Ali Sina and others could have communicated to us the means by which they became sufficiently confident that Liberated is genuinely an apostate (e.g., possibly, interview by phone and/or video, in person, corroboration with other people who know Liberated, etc.). Some emails, some pictures, and some comments on Faithfreedom are altogether not enough evidence for corroboration--but that's all they've mentioned so far.<br /><br />Regarding your problems with your neck and shoulders, you have my sympathy. I get stiff in the neck and shoulders sometimes if I spend to much time at my computer for my research work, though exercise in my case does correct it somewhat. I am wondering if you have considered physiotherapy? <br /><br />Anyways, I wish you a Happy New Year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-57077614366285932172011-12-31T11:15:20.905-08:002011-12-31T11:15:20.905-08:00LIG stevey bwoy. LIG :)LIG stevey bwoy. LIG :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-17750391269452354302011-12-31T10:56:56.296-08:002011-12-31T10:56:56.296-08:00You are sub-human garbage aren't you skouti. Y...You are sub-human garbage aren't you skouti. You're a Moslem headbanging zombie who won't condemn old men for having sex with children. Why moslem? <br /><br />You and your dirty filthy false prophet are the same trash. Eh?Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14414632528266336216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-59168863021058779562011-12-31T10:52:08.331-08:002011-12-31T10:52:08.331-08:00um Steve, are you too upset about your hero, tommy...um Steve, are you too upset about your hero, tommy "I got slapped by a muslim" robinson<br /><br />check it out fool<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMW032VThuQ<br /><br />enjoy :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-35469477721767668892011-12-31T10:41:03.396-08:002011-12-31T10:41:03.396-08:00Notice the Moslem skouti can’t answer the question...Notice the Moslem skouti can’t answer the question about condemning old men that have sex with children. While there is little doubt close inbreeding has dulled his mind, there is enough gray matter left that allows him to understand that if he does condemn them he condemns his child raping prophet in the process. <br /><br />The Moslem’s cowardice silence shows two things: that he truly believes his filthy prophet had sex with children, and demonstrates how sick and twisted the death cult has made this headbanging zombie of Allah/Satan.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14414632528266336216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-7643868679543059402011-12-31T10:36:52.311-08:002011-12-31T10:36:52.311-08:00Chirp....chirp....chirp.....chirp....Chirp....chirp....chirp.....chirp....Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14414632528266336216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-55332777634832607022011-12-31T10:29:06.339-08:002011-12-31T10:29:06.339-08:00Skouti lets see what kind of a person you really a...Skouti lets see what kind of a person you really are? Shall we? <br /><br />Skouti will you condemn any old man that has sex with a child?Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14414632528266336216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-26631388873554750862011-12-31T10:24:50.555-08:002011-12-31T10:24:50.555-08:00"There been plenty of Muslim woman around who..."There been plenty of Muslim woman around who won't give a hoot about their parents thought to enjoy some intimacies with me."<br /><br />ROFLMAO!!!! oh man that was hilarious.....poor lady boy dar-schan really letting himself go on his own lil fantasy there.<br /><br />Listen blud, you just blew what little hope you had with the fake blogger. Like you ever had a look in the first place despite all your butt kissin to her, heheheheheAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-1393583807127142662011-12-31T10:23:16.480-08:002011-12-31T10:23:16.480-08:00Talitha,
The Quran does not explicitly forbid Mus...Talitha,<br /><br />The Quran does not explicitly forbid Muslim women from marrying Christian and Jewish men. That is rather a mainstream interpretation that arose in Islamic law. The Quran forbids both Muslim men and Muslim women from marrying polytheists, allows Muslim men to marry Christian and Jewish women, but is silent on the question of whether Muslim women can marry Christian and Jewish men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-24463871203136208652011-12-31T10:21:10.815-08:002011-12-31T10:21:10.815-08:00"I want to say that you would be surprised at..."I want to say that you would be surprised at the number of Muslim women (even devout Muslim women!) who wish they were able to marry the non-Muslim men they encountered"<br /><br />this sounds suspiciously like the argument that greenforest makes that all 1.5 billion muslims are forced to stay in Islam........Sheesh you lot really make the above up as you go along. <br /><br />"These Christian men the Muslim women married are men who truly respect women"<br /><br />Well colour me surprised. Gee Wizz, who knew that christian men respect their women. I mean, christian men don't beat up, kill, rape, any of their women do they ??? No not at allAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-43016616233886428262011-12-31T10:13:06.873-08:002011-12-31T10:13:06.873-08:00No doubt Moslem males would make the worst lovers ...No doubt Moslem males would make the worst lovers on the planet since they don't need to consider the feelings of their female property. Two minutes of sex would be a marathon for Moslems. LOLStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14414632528266336216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-58663850424242883092011-12-31T10:07:41.358-08:002011-12-31T10:07:41.358-08:00skuti-"the pick of the lady boys like dar-sch...skuti-"the pick of the lady boys like dar-schan" ... you are a clueless clown about women. I guess you won't know a thing about women, your first cousine was already married to you two seconds after she was born. Lets see, you are about 53, following your prophits footsteps, your mother thinks highly of you - a good Muslim boy, LOL. You people are totally screwed awkwardly backwards in every which way you look.<br /><br />There been plenty of Muslim woman around who won't give a hoot about their parents thought to enjoy some intimacies with me. That burn your heart up skuti, right?Dar-schanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16701054144454418464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-15253814314404266572011-12-31T09:58:45.962-08:002011-12-31T09:58:45.962-08:00Skouti you can't possibly have any problem wit...Skouti you can't possibly have any problem with vile kiddy fiddling Priests since your false prophet was in the same category. LOL <br /><br />And by the way Moslem those priests are considered scum by all decent people, they're not, revered, like you child raping false prophet, are they, moslem? Not much to say about that eh. Who can blame you. <br /><br />Skouti... do you think Aisha was the only little child your sick false prophet had sex with? More than likely he would have had little captured children and toddlers sent to his tent for some more molestation, especially when Aisha was getting on in years like, 11 or 12 years old. What a vile sack of garbage he was eh? <br /><br />Skouti, will you condemn old men from having sex with children? Simple question. Yes or No?Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14414632528266336216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-39987808299837199232011-12-31T09:52:12.256-08:002011-12-31T09:52:12.256-08:00To those who are quoting Shakila talking about how...To those who are quoting Shakila talking about how she wished she could marry a non-Muslim man, well, I want to say that you would be surprised at the number of Muslim women (even devout Muslim women!) who wish they were able to marry the non-Muslim men they encountered. The only thing holding them back from accepting such marriages from themselves is the fact that they follow the Qur'an which forbids them from marrying Christian men. For others, they don't care about what the Qur'an says there, but fear their family's reaction as they would definitely disown them if they did so. I personally know two women who were disowned for marrying Christian men.<br /><br />And who would blame these women for not wanting to marry Muslim men? These Christian men the Muslim women married are men who truly respect women, they don't call their women "harem", they don't force them to wear the Hijab, they don't have "jealousy" (aka distrust) about their wives speaking to or befriending other men. <br /><br />Compare that to, say, the posts from Skouti and other commentators here bashing in such a low manner at Shakila.Talithahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08846974915557266099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4793384866525609075.post-3668970783635858202011-12-31T09:51:19.907-08:002011-12-31T09:51:19.907-08:00"I'd rather not go through Spencer for co..."I'd rather not go through Spencer for complicated reasons"<br /><br />do tell, fell out with spencer did ya ?<br /><br />Steve,<br /><br />The kiddy fiddling christian priests obviously got the better of you son.......look how you turned out......don't think the fake blogger will go for damaged goods like youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com