Tuesday, October 23, 2012

An update

It has been over three months since my last post, when I had written about how my family had disowned me when I had introduced them to John and told them about our relationship and our future plans. Well, a lot has happened since then, and I don't know where to begin. As you guys know, John left for UK first week of July, and then I joined him third week, and then I had the most amazing holiday of my life. We stayed in London for few days, then went to Wales, then back to England, then went to France, Germany and Belgium, back to London and then back home to the lousy Middle East. The good news is that John and I went to the registrar's in London and applied for a marriage permit, which is valid for a year, so now we are planning to get married next summer and then go away on a long honeymoon to Spain and Italy.

Ever since we got engaged, my life has been absolutely bliss, to say the least. John is the most considerate and loving man I have ever known in my life. In the past I have dated a bunch of Muslim morons who didn't know the first thing about respecting a woman. I have been through so many abusive relationships that sometimes I feel like pinching myself to see whether I am dreaming because no one can be this nice to me. He treats me like a queen and showers me with so much love and affection that I almost forget that I don't have a family anymore. He is all the family I have and I feel so grateful to God that he sent him to my life at a time when I was totally lost and had no direction whatsoever. Not only did he show me the true path that leads to God, but he has held my hand since then.

All my life I dreamt of the perfect man, a perfect marriage and perfect kids. I dreamt how my parents would dote on their son in law and their grandkids. Little did I know that I would meet the perfect man of my dreams, but my parents would never accept him as part of their family -- let alone that, they even cut me out of their lives completely. It hurts like hell, but there is nothing I can do and frankly, I can't blame them, because it is not them, it the cult of bastard Mohammed which is making them do all this to their own daughter. Each and every day, I just feel so sad when I think of the good old days when I was growing up with so much love from my family, and now I am no more than a stranger to them, all because of one self proclaimed prophet and his imaginary Allah. It is not fair at all, and I just can’t help feel sorry for my parents for their stupidity. They are blind, deaf and dumb because they just can’t see beyond Islam, and there is no way I can ever tell them that Islam is false, it’s a man made religion and Mohammed was a psychopath, a liar, and you guys are cutting off ties with your own daughter for some lunatic who died 1400 years ago.

This is sad but true, I have a man who makes me very happy, but at the same time, I don’t have a family anymore. I just wish and pray to God that I get my own family very soon. Maybe once I get my child, I would not feel this void in my life.

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  1. I was just thinking about your blog yesterday and how it had been a while since you last posted.

    I am so thankful you have become a Christian. I remember reading your posts when you were still searching. It is wonderful that you have found the Truth.

    I cannot imagine all you must be going through. I've studied middle eastern cultures a little bit and have friends who have grown up in such cultures, but I can't imagine what emotions and experiences you are facing as a result of following JC.

    I pray you will be safe and that your marriage will be blessed!

    Sincerely,

    Kirsten

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    1. dear kirsten I can see that you're so happy for this liberated one,many muslims converted to christianity ,but alot of christians converted to islam ,I'm a muslim (for the record),I remember how happy I was when I heard that that catholic preacher converted to islam after a long time of searchin for the truth,his name is yusuf estes,here's a video about how his family reacted when he converted to islam ,(if you're interested ), if you do't wanna get bored,you can just start watching the video from 5min
      till u get enough ;p
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is-8bKSehzU
      peace!!

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    2. I too am glad that you have become a Christian. I'm glad for John and I hope and pray you have a wonderful life. I think we should pray for your family ,that they too will find the true God. Since He is Mighty and can do all things if He wants to He can save them too. Lets all keep her precious lost parents and siblings in prayer.

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    3. tarekg,

      A person who claims to be a Muslim and is living within a free society like America is able to benefit from life in that free society; and the person does not ever experience life under true Islam. Such a person is living a fairy tale and is deceived about the true nature of Islam.

      A true Muslim is commanded to imitate the life of Muhammad, as defined by the totality of the Qur'an, the Sira, and the Hadith, with all textual abrogations being fully considered. If a person claiming to be a Muslim in America were to truly imitate Muhammad in America, it would be treasonous and blatantly immoral. Therefore, most people who claim to be Muslims in America cannot imitate the life of Muhammad in many ways, and are, therefore, not really Muslims. They are selecting portions of Islamic ideology that are currently palatable to a free society. That form of "cherry-picking" is not true Islam and they are not true Muslims. They are living a fairy tale.

      If an informed person in a free society claims to voluntarily convert to Islam after previously closely following Jesus, the Messiah, the Christ, the Savior of the world, the good Shepherd, the Way, the Truth, the Life, then that person is deceived. No rational, informed person in a free society would voluntarily imitate Muhammad after knowing Jesus personally and drawing near to Him and clinging to Him for refuge and strength.

      The lives of Muhammad and Jesus are diametrically opposed to one another. Muhammad is dead and is useless to anyone; whereas Jesus the Savior of the world is very much alive and remains very strong forevermore, a rock and fortress for all those who trust Him and draw near to Him and cling to Him.

      It is not believable to say that rational, informed people in free societies voluntarily convert from closely following Jesus to truly imitating Muhammad. People convert to following Muhammad only through deception and intimidation.

      Muhammad was deceived and he was a deceiver, and he gave his followers permission to deceive other people in order to further the cause of Islam. No one should follow or imitate Muhammad. He was a terrible role model. His life was a mess. You must examine the whole life of Muhammad, as defined by the Islamic trilogy --- Qur'an, Sira, Hadith --- while considering all textual abrogations. The Qur'an is not sufficient to define Islam or Muhammad. Anyone who points to the Qur'an alone to prove something about Islam is ignorant about Islam or is practicing deception.

      Jesus the Savior never deceived anyone or advocated deception, because Jesus the Messiah, the Christ is the Truth. There is only one Truth. I urge you to run far, far, far away from Muhammad and run straight to Jesus for the rest of your life and cling to Him. He is the only one who is able to impart to you life eternal and freedom from bondage.

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    4. Ralph

      All praises and thanks be to Allah, the creator of mankind, jinns and all that exists. The greatest thing that God had offered humanity is that he provided them messengers chosen from among the best of their kind.

      I'm a native muslim and I know the truth about islam ,no one cane decieve me , and I'm not going to decieve anyone
      you said triology, I don't know where did you bring that from or when was this term invented,in islam there are only two sources: QURAN and SUNNA.
      saying "MUHAMMAD"(pbuh) is useless is like saying Einstein is usless,prophet MUHAMMAD's legacy was the knoledge he left for humanity,his sunna is being and will always be followed until there will be no muslim on earth ,he was comleting the message that prophets moses and jesus carried, even "JESUS" (pbuh)wouldn't say he is useless nay he would thank him for that.
      even before he became a prophet "MUHAMMAD"(pbuh)was called the truthful,the honest.
      He was a poor orphan, who had started trading with his uncle, but in a very short time, owing to his honest and fair dealings with all people, he became well-known and respected. He was known as Al-Sadiq (the Truthful) and Al-Amin (the Faithful). Every Makkan, rich or poor called him by these names. When the dispute arose, among the various tribes of Makkah, as to who should lay the Black Stone in its proper place, in the Ka'bah, they decided that the one who entered the Ka'bah first next morning would place it. Muhammad (PBUH) was the first to enter the Ka'bah that morning and when the people saw him they were all very happy that Al-Amin and Al-Sadiq had come and would be the one to lay the Black Stone in its proper position.

      Once the chiefs of the Quraish were sitting and talking about him. Nadhar bin Harith, the most experienced of them all, said, "O Quraish! You have not been able to find any plan to meet the calamity that has fallen upon you. Muhammad (PBUH) grew up from childhood in your presence. He was the most liked, honest and faithful among you. Now when he has grown to maturity and has presented these things to you, you say, he is a magician, a soothsayer, a poet, a mad man. By Allah! I have heard his Message, he is none of these things. A new calamity has fallen upon you."

      read also about when the disbelievers of Makkah, in consultation with the People of the Book,asked the prophet three questions in order to test if he was atrue prophet . These were: Who were the People of' the Cave? What is Ruh [the spirit]? What do you know about Dhul-Qarnain? As these three questions and the stories involved concerned the history of the Christians and the Jews and were unknown in Hijaz, a choice of these was made to test whether the Prophet possessed any knowledge of hidden or unseen things. God, however, not only gave a complete answer to their questions but also employed the three stories to the disadvantage of the opponents of Islam in the conflict that was going on at that time in Makkah between the people of belief and the people of disbelief []. The Surah also includes orders, parables, other narrative and instructions that the support the matter of belief against disbelief.

      Now,how could you people of nowadays call him a deciever? He was illiterate,and in one night the man started to write his own book!? is this logic?

      undoubtedly,"MUHAMMAD" is a true prophet who carried the same holly message that prophets "MOSES","JESUS",and "ABRAHAM" carried
      if you still have doubts about prophet"MUHAMMAD" look for "QURAN" and science. peace !!

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    5. Part 1:

      tarekg,

      I painstakingly wrote the following material in response to your comments. I hope it will help you to better understand my position. I have already lived nearly a full lifetime as a critically-thinking person immersed in science and technology. As a long-time follower of Jesus the Savior, the Messiah, the Christ, the good Shepherd, the Way, the Truth, the Life, I also have a good understanding of theology.

      Some things in life are true and some things are false. A thing cannot be both true and false. If I state that 2+2=4, then my statement is true. If I state that 2+2=5, then my statement is false. Rational, critically-thinking people understand that there is absolute truth in the universe. Truth is not relative. If I state that the shape of our earth is flat, then my statement is false. If I state that the shape of our earth is approximately ellipsoidal, then my statement is true.

      Throughout the millennia of history of the world's inhabited continents, many ambitious, aggressive, power-hungry conquerors have subdued many hundreds of millions of other people by force and intimidation. In the process, unimaginable atrocities were committed. People were murdered, raped, tortured, enslaved, subjugated, pillaged.

      Whenever civilized, moral, critically-thinking people observe morally-depraved, morally-bankrupt behavior in other people, we reject that behavior. We do not seek to copy or imitate that behavior. We refuse to mimic that behavior.

      People in free societies who commit morally-depraved deeds are apprehended and then tried under the rules of the free society. They are then punished under the rules of the free society.

      When Muhammad lived at Mecca during the first part of his life, he was purportedly a peaceful and admirable person. Muslim people like to point to that early part of Muhammad's life, because it is typically palatable to moral people in free societies.

      When Muhammad lived at Medina during the last part of his life, he became politically-motivated, power-hungry, selfish, aggressive, intimidating, and morally bankrupt in many ways. He became revengeful toward people who had earlier criticized or otherwise opposed him. His sexual appetite became morally disgusting. He became a murderer of people who would not submit to him. Peaceful Muslims do not like to point to that later part of Muhammad's life, because it is embarrassing and reprehensible to moral people in free societies.

      In Islamic ideology, Muhammad's life is considered to be the perfect example for all true Muslims to imitate. True Muslims are expected to follow the entire Sunna of Muhammad, which includes the Sunna at Mecca and the Sunna at Medina. They are also expected to follow the entire Qur'an, because the Qur'an is considered by Muslims to be perfect.

      A portion of the Qur'an pertains to Muhammad's life at Mecca. Another portion of the Qur'an pertains to Muhammad's life at Medina. Under the Islamic principle of abrogation, the portion of the Qur'an from Medina can repeal the portion of the Qur'an from Mecca. Thus, a Muslim is allowed to follow the chronologically-later parts of the Qur'an from Medina in preference to the chronologically-earlier parts of the Qur'an from Mecca. That is a major problem with Islamic ideology, and it is one of the reasons why informed non-Muslims consider Islamic ideology to be extremely dangerous to people in free societies.

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    6. Part 2:

      tarekg,

      A portion of the Sunna pertains to Muhammad's life at Mecca. Another portion of the Sunna pertains to Muhammad's life at Medina. Under the Islamic principle of abrogation, the portion of the Sunna from Medina can repeal the portion of the Sunna from Mecca. Thus, a Muslim is allowed to follow the chronologically-later parts of the Sunna from Medina in preference to the chronologically-earlier parts of the Sunna from Mecca. That is a major problem with Islamic ideology, and it is one of the reasons why informed non-Muslims consider Islamic ideology to be extremely dangerous to people in free societies.

      Informed non-Muslim people cannot understand why sane, rational, moral Muslim people would ever want to imitate the life of Muhammad at Medina, since Muhammad's life at Medina was morally bankrupt. Imitation of Muhammad's life at Medina is completely unacceptable.

      Under Islamic ideology, Muhammad's life defines what is permitted and what is forbidden. That is a major problem, because Muhammad's life at Medina was morally bankrupt. Muhammad's life at Medina must never be used to define what is permitted and what is forbidden for people. No sane, rational, moral person would ever want to follow Muhammad's life at Medina.

      Muslim people are expected to confess that Muhammad was a true prophet. I will never confess that, because it is false. Muhammad was not a true prophet. Muhammad's life at Medina was morally bankrupt, and no true prophet would live like Muhammad lived at Medina.

      Muhammad did not tell his followers the truth. He did not tell them that Jesus is the Messiah, the Savior of the world, the good Shepherd, the Way, the Truth, the Life, who completed everything necessary for the salvation and redemption of humankind hundreds of years before Muhammad was born. Jesus is not just another prophet in a long line of prophets. Jesus is the Savior of the world, the only Redeemer of humankind.

      Muhammad was not needed to complete anything that Jesus did. Jesus the Messiah had already completed everything in the plan of redemption and salvation for humankind many hundreds of years before Muhammad was born.

      If Muhammad had simply accepted and studied and preached the existing gospel (the good news) of Jesus the Savior to his followers, he could have avoided the centuries of bloodshed and misery that resulted after he proclaimed himself as a prophet of Islam and began his violent conquest and subjugation of people in the name of Islam while at Medina.

      Muhammad's claims as a prophet of Islam are not credible, because Islam was not needed as a new religion. Jesus the Savior was already being proclaimed by Christians as the Way, the Truth, the Life; but Muhammad did not accept the truth of the gospel of Jesus. Muhammad made a huge mistake when he ignored the truth of Jesus the Savior.

      In the Medina era, Muhammad murdered many followers of Jesus; and it is very hard to believe that he would have missed hearing the gospel of Jesus spoken by those Christians who he subjugated or murdered. Throughout history, followers of Jesus have boldly testified about Jesus as they were being executed by those who hated them. They were the martyrs.

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    7. Part 3:

      tarekg,

      Followers of Jesus the Savior do not need Muhammad or any of the other many self-proclaimed prophets that have emerged during the centuries after the life of Jesus. Jesus completed everything that needed to be completed for the salvation and redemption of humankind.

      Jesus the Savior is worth following. During His several years of continuous public ministry on earth, Jesus healed the sick, raised the dead to life, fed people supernaturally, delivered people from demonic bondage, quieted nature, forgave people of their sins, loved people, proclaimed the truth.

      Jesus freely gave up his life to be tortured and crucified by Roman soldiers. He was crucified until He was completely dead, placed into a tomb after He was completely dead, and then raised to life in a resurrected body. There were many eyewitnesses to these events.

      During more than five weeks of time after His resurrection from death, Jesus appeared and spoke to hundreds of eyewitnesses in large and small groups. That huge number of eyewitnesses is sufficient evidence for any court of law. The death and resurrection of Jesus the Messiah is not in question.

      Jesus now lives forevermore, as the judge of the living and the dead. Everyone, including Muhammad, will appear before the judgment seat of Jesus the Messiah.

      Muhammad is dead. As a historic figure who purportedly lived an admirable life at Mecca, he can be revered for his example. As a historic figure who lived at Medina, he should not be revered, because of his moral bankruptcy.

      Critically-thinking, moral Muslim people must renounce the Qur'an from Medina and the Sunna of Muhammad from Medina, because they advocate behavior that is diametrically opposed to the life of Jesus the Savior. Peaceful, moral people cannot allow the life of Muhammad at Medina to be imitated. No Muslim follower of Muhammad should ever follow the life of Muhammad at Medina.

      In our generation, true Islamic ideology has been fully explained by intelligent, non-Muslim scholars who now clearly understand and clearly present Islam’s fallacies and its dangers to free societies. Islam’s Medina-inspired ideology of supremacy and world domination is no longer hidden from the non-Muslim world. Non-Muslim people cannot and will not live under the example of Muhammad’s morally-bankrupt life at Medina. Informed non-Muslim people refuse to be subjugated as dhimmis under Islam.

      If Muslim people desire peace for the world, they must reject the Medina-inspired false notion of Islamic supremacy and world domination. That false notion came from Muhammad at Medina. It is a corrupt notion that has resulted in the subjugation, torture, rape, enslavement of hundreds of millions of people over centuries of time.

      Muhammad became a morally-bankrupt person at Medina. His selfish life at Medina was deplorable when compared to the noble, selfless life of Jesus, the Messiah, the Christ, the Savior of the world, the good Shepherd, the Way, the Truth, the Life.

      Jesus is the only Savior for all time and for eternity. I urge you to run to Him and draw near to Him and cling to Him. He is worth following. He is a sure rock and fortress for this life and for eternity for all who cling to Him.

      I wish you well.

      Ralph

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    9. @Ralph:
      thanks for reading my comments and for responding ;p

      The Prophet of Islam was ahead of his times in promoting peace and justice in society. It would be worthwhile to look at how he dealt with non-Muslims minorities and with the enemies during the war time because the true worth of a society manifests when it is put under pressure.

      With Non-Muslim Minority in Medina


      The Prophet and his followers were a persecuted minority in Mecca. When the torture became unbearable, he migrated to Medina, a city in northern Arabia, most of whose inhabitants had already accepted Islam. Once he settled in Medina, the Prophet realized that there was a minority Jewish community in that city that had no inclination to accept Islam. He met them and invited them to a pact with the Muslims so that each religious group in Medina knew its rights and obligations. Some relevant part of the charter reads as follows:

      - The Jews who enter into this covenant shall be protected from all insults and vexations; they shall have an equal right as our own people to our assistance and good offices. The Jews of the various tribes…and all other non-Muslim residents of Medina shall form with the Muslims one composite nation

      - They shall practice their religion as freely as the Muslims.

      - The allies of the Jews shall enjoy the same security and freedom. The guilty shall be pursued and punished. The Jews shall join the Muslims in defending Medina against all enemies. The interior of Medina shall be a sacred place for all who accept this Charter. The allies of the Muslims and of the Jews shall be as respected as the principal parties of this Charter.

      This agreement between the first Muslim community and the Jewish community in Medina shows the sense of justice portrayed in the Prophet’s character in dealing with minorities. It also clearly shows that the Prophet did not spread Islam, even in the city of Medina, by force; on the contrary, he promoted peaceful co-existence with followers of other faiths, especially Jews and Christians. Out of the three Abrahamic faiths, it is only Islam which has recognized Judaism and Christianity on a theological level; the Jews and the Christians are known, in Islam, as Ahlul Kitãb, the People of the Scriptures.

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    10. @Ralph (part 2)

      Following the example of Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) many rulers in Muslim history maintained peaceful and cordial relations with their non-Muslim subjects. If we were to compare the attitude of the Muslim rulers towards the minorities living under their rule during the nineteenth century—with the attitude of the Europeans and the Americans towards their minorities, I dare to say that the record of the Muslims would be much better. Professor Roderic Davison, a prominent historian of the Ottoman Empire, writes, “It might in fact have been argued that the Turks were less oppressive of their subject people than were Prussians of the Poles, the English of the Irish, or the Americans of the Negroes…There is evidence to show that in this period [i.e., late 19th century], there was emigration from independent Greece into the Ottoman Empire, since some Greeks found the Ottoman government a more indulgent master [than their own Greek government].”[3]

      If you study the medieval history of Europe, you will see that the only model of a peaceful multi-cultural and multi-faith society was Spain under the Muslim rule—a Spain in which Christians, Jews and Muslims lived in peace and harmony.

      Non-Muslim Relatives & Neighbours


      An Islamic injunction about loving and caring for a neighbour covers all kinds of neighbours:

      “Worship God and do not associate anything with Him, and be good to the parents and to the relatives, the orphans, the needy, the neighbour who is your relative, the neighbour who is not your relative, the fellow traveler, the wayfarer and the slave. Verily God does not love one who behaves proudly and boastfully.” (Surah an-Nisaa, 4:36)

      Even if a Muslim’s parents are idol-worshippers, Islam –the religion of monotheism– instructs him to respect and be kind to them. Almighty God says in the Qur’ãn:

      “And if they [that is, your parents] insist on you to associate (an idol) with Me… then do not obey them; however, live with them in this world kindly…” (Surah al-Luqman, 31:15)

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      With Enemies in the Battle Field

      The Qur’ãn instructs the Muslims to maintain justice even when dealing with their enemies.

      “O you who believe, be maintainers of justice (and bearer of) witness for (the sake of) God. Let not hatred of a people incite you to act unjustly; be just—this is nearer to righteousness. And fear God surely God is aware of what you do.” (Surah al-Maida, 5:8)

      The first battle in the Muslim history is very significant. It took place in the 2nd year of the Muslim calendar between the Muslims and the polytheists of Mecca. Even though outnumbered and ill-equipped, the Muslims defeated the Meccans and took seventy prisoners of war.

      The norm among all societies at that time was to either kill the POWs or make them slaves. But Prophet Muhammad instructed the Muslims to treat the POWs humanely; they were brought back safely to Medina and given decent lodging in the houses of the people who had taken them prisoners. The Qur’ãn decreed that the POWs must not be ill-treated in any way.

      According to a Western biographer of Prophet Muhammad, Sir William Muir, “In pursuance of Mahomet’s commands, the citizens of Medina…received the prisoners and treated them with much consideration. ‘Blessings be on the men of Medina’, said one of the prisoners in later days, ‘they made us ride, while they themselves walked, they gave us wheaten bread to eat when there was little of it; contenting themselves with dates.”


      The way the Prophet dealt with the prisoners was very revolutionary. The poor prisoners were released free; those who came from affluent families of Mecca were returned for a specified ransom. (See the Qur’ãn: Surah Muhummad, 47:4) But the most interesting case was of those prisoners who were literate – the Prophet Muhammad made a deal with them that they could go free if they could teach ten Muslim children how to read and write.

      Even the rules of engagement during war are also important. Whenever Muslims embarked on the minor jihãd, a defensive jihãd, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) had standard instructions regarding non-combatants and also the environment:

      à “Do not violate the treaties.”
      à “Do not kill an old person or a child or a woman.”
      à “Do not cut down a tree.”
      à “Neither burn down the palm-trees nor drown them with water.”
      à “Do not cut down a tree bearing fruits.”
      à “Do not drown the plantations.”
      à “Do not poison the water of the infidels.”[4]

      All this was done fourteen hundred years ago; long, long before the Geneva Convention came about.

      In background of the secret prisons run by the CIA, ‘the manual of torture’ written by the US army to interrogate the prisoners, and the disclosure of torture in Abu Ghuraib prison, I can proudly say that the example and teachings of Prophet Muhammad about Prisoners of War (POWs) are “definitively good and humane” even according to the standards of the 21st century.

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  2. Liberated One, I am overjoyed to learn that you have become a born-again Christian. Truly, you are now one who is liberated in Christ. With new eyes that He has given you, feel free to visit the blog below (particularly some of the "Theology and Eschatology" articles) where I attempt to explain the pivotal role that the Satanic religion of Islam is playing in these last days as we approach the Second Coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It just might put a few things into perspective:

    http://midnightwatcher.wordpress.com/

    God bless you ...

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    1. Did you say satanic!! why don't check this out u littledaylightcrybebe :
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWd-E1kyTNg
      and here's the full length documentary:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aD8TU3VC-Q
      I hope u 'll enjoy these SATANIC moments and now ...mr.midnightwhatever , that's what quran says about christians :
      In the Quran, Christians are often referred to as among the "People of the Book," i.e. people who have received and believed in previous revelation from God's prophets. There are verses that highlight the commonalities between Christians and Muslims, and other verses that warn Christians against sliding towards polytheism in their worship of Jesus Christ.
      Commonalities:

      "Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

      "...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

      "O you who believe! Be helpers of God -- as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, 'Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?' Said the disciples, 'We are God's helpers!' Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved. But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed" (61:14).

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    2. tarekg,

      Please also see my earlier, long reply that is shown above.

      For your statement here, you selected portions from the Qur'an that make Islam appear to be palatable.

      You must consider the totality of the Islamic trilogy -- Qur'an, Sira, Hadith -- and apply all textual abrogations if you are to truthfully present Islamic ideology. Because of abrogation, the Mecca era of Muhammad's life does not truthfully represent Islamic ideology.

      The chronologically-later portion of the Qur'an from the Medina era of Muhammad's life shows unfavorableness toward non-Muslim people. Additionally the Sunna of Muhammad shows unfavorableness toward non-Muslim people.

      People of the Book were murdered by Muhammad for not submitting to Islam after Muhammad began operating from Medina in the later part of his life. The Medina portion of Muhammad’s life was deeply depraved.

      The violent writings from the Medina era of Muhammad's life abrogate the more-peaceful writings from the Mecca era of Muhammad's life; so it is invalid to quote anything from the more-peaceful Mecca era of Muhammad's life, which was superseded.

      Islam has a dualistic nature and includes abrogation, which are two of the reasons why Islam is a very deceptive ideology.

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    3. Ralph (part 1)

      you said I only mentioned the parts that make islam palatable, yes I did mention "some"parts that make it palatable for you. But you did the same thing,you've mentioned the "other" portions that make islam the mostpalatable ideology.Now let"me" explain what "you" meant to say:
      islam treats non-muslims courteously in a spirit of kindness and generosity,GIVEN they are not hostile towards muslims ,like normal humans, muslims are hostile towards those who are hostile to them.guote from the holly quran:
      “God does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes – from dealing kindly and justly with them. Indeed, God loves those who act justly. God only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion – (forbids) that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.” (Quran 60:8-9)

      Divine commandments to treat non-Muslims in this manner were taken seriously by Muslims. They were not just verses to be recited, but Divine Will to be acted upon. The Prophet, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him, himself was the first person to put the divine commands into practice, followed by his caliphs and the general population of believers. The life-story of the Prophet of Islam gives many instances of his kind, tolerant co-existence with non-Muslims. Some of his neighbors were non-Muslims and the Prophet would be generous towards them and exchange gifts. The Prophet of Islam would visit them when they fell sick and do business with them. There was a Jewish family he regularly gave charity to and the Muslims after his death maintained his charity towards them.

      When a Christian delegation from Ethiopian churches came to Medina, the Prophet opened up his mosque for them to stay in, hosted them generously, and personally served them meals. He said:

      “They were generous to our companions, so I wish to be generous to them in person…”

      …referring to the event when they provided asylum to a number of his companions after they fled persecution in Arabia and took asylum in Abyssinia.In another instance
      In another instance, a Jewish man named Zayd bin Sana came to the Prophet of Islam to reclaim a debt. He grabbed the Prophet by his robe and cloak, pulled the Prophet close to his face, and said, ‘Muhammad, are you not going to give me my due? You and your clan Banu Muttalib never pay debts on time!’ Umar, one of the companions of the Prophet, got agitated and said, ‘Enemy of God, am I really hearing what you just said to God’s Prophet. I swear by the One who sent him with truth, if I were not afraid that he would blame me, I would have taken my sword and cut your head off!’ The Prophet looked calmly at Umar and censured him gently:

      “Umar, that is not what we needed to hear from you. You should have counseled me to pay my debts in time and asked him to seek repayment in a respectful manner. Now take him, repay him his debt from my money and give him an extra twenty measures of date.”
      The Jewish man was so pleasantly surprised by the Prophet’s behavior that he immediately declared his acceptance of Islam!!!...to be conyinued........

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    4. Ralph (part 2)

      The companions of Prophet Muhammad followed his example in how they treated non-Muslims. Umar set-up a permanent stipend for the Jewish family the Prophet used to take care of in his lifetime.He found justification for allotting funds for the People of the Scripture in the following verse of the Quran:

      “Alms are only for the poor and for the needy and for those employed to collect (the funds) and for bringing hearts together, and for freeing captives (or slaves) and for those in debt and for the cause of God, and for the (stranded) traveler – an obligation (imposed) by God. And God is Knowing and Wise.” (Quran 9:60)

      Abdullah ibn ‘Amr, a famous companion of the Prophet Muhammad, would regularly give charity to his neighbors. He would send his servant to take portions of meat on religious occasions to his Jewish neighbor. The surprised servant asked about Abdullah’s concern for his Jewish neighbor. Abdullah told him the saying of Prophet Muhammad:

      “The angel Gabriel was so adamant in reminding me to be charitable with my neighbor that I thought he might make him my heir.”
      As weturn to the pages of history, we find a marvelous example of how a Muslim ruler expected his governors to treat the Jewish populace. The Sultan of Morocco, Muhammad ibn Abdullah, issued an edict on February 5th, 1864 CE:

      ‘To our civil servants and agents who perform their duties as authorized representatives in our territories, we issue the following edict:

      ‘They must deal with the Jewish residents of our territories according to the absolute standard of justice established by God. The Jews must be dealt with by the law on an equal basis with others so that none suffers the least injustice, oppression, or abuse. Nobody from their own community or outside shall be permitted to commit any offense against them or their property. Their artisans and craftsmen may not be scripted into service against their will, and must be paid full wages for serving the state. Any oppression will cause the oppressor to be in darkness on Judgment Day and we will not approve of any such wrongdoing. Everyone is equal in the sight of our law, and we will punish anyone who wrongs or commits aggression against the Jews with divine aid. This order which we have stated here is the same law that has always been known, established, and stated. We have issued this edict simply to affirm and warn anyone who may wish to wrong them, so the Jews may have a greater sense of security and those intending harm may be deterred by greater sense of fear

      Renault is one of the unbiased Western historians who has acknowledged the kind and fair treatment of Muslims towards the non-Muslim minorities. He comments:

      ‘The Muslims in the cities of Islamic Spain treated the non-Muslims in the best possible way. In return, the non-Muslims showed respect to the sensibilities of the Muslims and would circumcise their own children and refrain from eating pork.
      Now,that you have read this ,please don't call islam a deseptive religion, because islam treated non-muslims better than christianity did with non-christians...TO BE CONTINUED...

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    5. (part3) : (the last one)



      WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT NON-CHRISTIANS?
      ANSWER:

      1_They are without God.
      "Whosoever ... abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God." -- 2 John 9
      2_They are all antichrists.
      "For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." -- 2 John 7
      They should be shunned. Neither marry nor be friends with them.
      "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? ... Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord." -- 2 Cor.6:14-17
      3_They should be killed.
      "If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10
      Well I guess ISLAM is more tolerant and palatable after all! convert to islam if you agree or:
      CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ......PEAACE!!!!!!!!!

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  3. Just make sure you don't become TOO liberated and become bored of John's niceness. Christianity is not to be taken as lightly as most of the locals in the West take it, with outrageous divorce rates and many so-called nice guys cheated on by their wives with more handsome and accomplished men. Monogamous marriage exists in Christianity to give every man a chance at love, to prevent the women from mating with only a handful of alpha males (like there is the situation in Muslim countries today) and in the process creating a society with plenty of repressed would-be terrorists willing to die for the 72 houris.

    " In the past I have dated a bunch of Muslim morons who didn't know the first thing about respecting a woman."

    By your tone, I would guess that the 'Muslim morons' you mention are not the few sheiks and emirs hoarding the women and wealth of Muslim countries, but rather part of the would-be terrorist group who were happy at the prospect of a wife, but desperate to cling to you by any means necessary. This desperation can no doubt be off-putting from your perspective. You should not blame them too harshly.

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    1. dear moron eugene ,muslims are not morons like you dude,and if you want to know how much of a moron you are watch these video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLmDo2pX8Rg
      "WOMEN IN ISLAM",this is part one if you like it pass to the following parts

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  4. THE FAKE MURTARD IS BACK, LOL

    whoaa where u been hiding bitch ???, bwahahahaha

    ol jihad bobby spencer finally pulled his finger out and decided to pen more of his usual Islam hating bollocks......the usual nonsense about how he hates Islam blah blah blah.........bitch went on holiday is still a HATER......go figure, ROFLMAO!!!!!

    so what new.......fake beeatchhh is still shacked up with jesus freak johnny......Christ, you just don't know who to feel sorry for :)

    so has he gotten his leg over the fake murtard yet ? i mean its the least one can expect for having to put up with a fcuked up person like that, no ?

    amd the best bit.......the bitch wants to breed!?!?!? holy shit, can you picture/imagine the progeny that vomits forth.......doesn't bear thinking about

    keep it going spencer as we need the laughs ......all tooo hilarious

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    1. What about the "no compulsion to religion"?For a Muslim(religious person) you sure have a potty mouth.

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  5. Behold, how mahometans respect others.

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    1. yo jack the ass of a big jackass,you don't even wash ur ass u shit on the hotseat and get up so fast like a flash , but what beats me is when u finish , why do u wash ur hands? ....talking about muslims like u know a shit about them,you just repeat what u hear about them , now let me tell you sometthing about them : they wash thier feet five times aday now you tell me how many times aday do you wash your ugly face,u said something about respect yeah like you know it ,bitch i bet christians...not even atheists respect you cause your face smells like a foot u lazyass of a big assful jackass...ass..jack..yeah that's you!.....I'm not cleaning this mess fool!

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  6. Only if they are real, jack-ass :)

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  8. Hey skouti, do us a favor and strap a bomb on, walk into a mosque and set it off.

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    1. skouti is not here homie, but guess what! i can do better than this,i can tell you a little story about you, your dad and momy : you re a bastard junior the son of bastard senior,u don't know anything about ur grand-father cuz ur father didn't tell u anything about em cuz he doesn't know anything about em! , what about ur mother man stop fore go any further...too late don I'm goin "any further" ,she met ur father in a bar she was shaking up her buttom up and down,breaking and moonwalkin, then ran into ur father, she was topless and ur father had no pents both were zipped up, that's why they agreed to fuck and have u shitted out fucking shitbag...faggest fag!

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    2. Your intellectual capabilities are astounding.

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  9. Man O Man this skouti toe-rag hasn't shaken off yet - what a piece of turd he is.

    Hey Lib - you never mention how John's family treat you, I am curious? The way your family treat you and think about you is no different than this piece of turd called Skouti thinking about you - they are all Quran followers. My guess is that Mr. Skouti is Reza f-wit Aslan : He is a piece of crap that needs a good clean over.

    Sorry about my language folks, but I feel a lot better after this.

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  10. Some of my family members won't speak to me because of the islamic prophet either, and I'm not even an ex-muslim.

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  11. Lord be with you and protect you from these misguided, rebellious fools.
    And may the Lord's love and truth reach even your family, I pray.

    Super happy to hear the news of yet another born-again believer. Welcome to the family, sister. =D

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  12. I am glad you have found a great love,that is wonderful,many never find nobody.

    Guys,she has not exactly said she is a Christian,but she still believes in God.Life gives us many surprises.In my blog I try to give as much information.

    Check out:

    "The Literary Masterpiece “The Man who Calculated”,about a Christian Girl and an Ex-Muslim"

    http://www.antisharia.com/2012/07/09/the-literary-masterpiece-the-man-who-calculatedabout-a-christian-girl-and-an-ex-muslim/

    "About Amir Khusrau/Khosrow(1253-1325 ),Famous Indian Poet who wrote in Persian and False Sufi Saint"

    http://www.antisharia.com/2012/06/28/about-amir-khusraukhosrow1253-1325-famous-indian-poet-who-wrote-in-persian-and-false-sufi-saint/

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  13. Hey Lib - you never mention how John's family treat you, I am curious?

    Hey dar schmuck, still trying to get a look in with the FAKE MURTARD, LOL too late sucka, the bitch don't want to know you.....how does it feel son ? Hurt much.......I mean to be taken in by spencer in that way. especially so since nearly all of his followers on jihad watch have abandonded this so called blog. Gawd that would explain why spencer himself has given up too. hasn't quite worked out as he anticipated. not the first time he has made a horses ass out of himself......being a HATER n all :)

    as for jesus freak johnny's family......took one look at the beeatchhh and said "the boy's bought a fcukin paki home", bahahahahaha




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  14. Please keep writing. Thanks.

    Blessings to all who read this blog.

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  15. Family is bad. Unless it can exist without oppressing the individual.

    ...

    I too left Islam. I don't care who wishes to excommunicate with me. I am who I am and if people don't like it, then forget them.

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  16. Honestly I wish these comments could be moderated so the idiots would not have their posts approved! Glad to hear from you again Shakila, I've been worried about you. I'm glad you had a great vacation but sorry you returned to the middle east. I hope you can move out of there very soon. It's not safe for you there, having left Islam and engaged to a non muslim. I will pray for God's protection on you so you won't meet up with any "accidents." God bless you, sister in Christ, I'm so glad you have found Him! I wish ALL Muslims could discover the love of God and turn to Him instead of the hopeless mess that is Islam. As John 10:10 says "The thief cometh to steal, kill and destroy, but I am come that they might have life and that more abundantly." Islam is all about stealing, killing and destroying but Jesus gives life, abundant life! I'm looking forward to meeting you in heaven, my sister!

    Alondra

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    1. alondra don't repeat what you hear about islam!
      islam is against stealing,killin and destroyin ,there's no religion on earth allows stealing,killin and destroyin . I dare you to substantiate what you've said , give me anything (from quran aor sunna )that says muslims are allowed to steal,kil,and destroy....and about 3islam is a hopeless mess,I dare you to find any contraddiction in quran ( the book that is still the same ,not even a word has been changed,since 1400 years ago .....stop this shilly shally dilly dally about islam you spiteful vatican's puppets!

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  17. Good luck! Will keep you in my prayers and continue to hope you find safety in peace.

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  18. so you won't meet up with any "accidents."

    like stabbin yerself with yer crucifix......OUCH!!!! :)

    Man, thats gonna hurt but then again with the fake blogger it might be a sign from the Almighty himself, hehehehehe

    Islam is all about stealing, killing and destroying but Jesus gives life, abundant life

    uh-huh......care to publish the parts of the bible that condone murder, death n destruction eh ??? say somthing if you are bad

    didn't think you would......so shuuut ya mouut

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  19. Hello Liberated and others:

    Liberated here is a good article with content that you could say to your family as to why the Koran is man-made.First I will provide the link and then copy-paste the content:

    "What to Say to Koran-Only Muslims:the Koran Verses they Can’t Say have a Different Meaning"

    http://www.antisharia.com/2012/10/24/what-to-say-to-koran-only-muslimsthe-koran-verses-they-cant-say-have-a-different-meaning/

    HERE IS THE CONTENT,PART 1

    There are some Muslims who only accept the Koran: Thus for them the following never happened:

    1.Muhammad never had sex with a 9-year-old girl,his last wife Aisha.

    2.Muhammad never killed 700 Jewish men(for whatever reason) and sold their women and children into slavery.

    3.And so,etc.

    Another argument 100% accepted by the Koran-only Muslims

    It is that all negative verses in the Koran are only for a specific time and place.For example:

    1.The verse that says non-Muslims are “the worst of creatures” ONLY refers to certain non-Muslims in Muhammad’s time.The verse does NOT say they are “the worst of creatures till the end of the world“.

    2.The anti-Jewish verses in the Koran are ONLY for some Jews in the time of Muhammad,it is NOT a universal curse on them for all time.

    Using the Minimalist Argument,let us agree to it all

    In the minimalist argument one accepts all that they believe and then see what is good or bad from what remains regarding the Koran and Islam.

    To verify the Koranic citations to be cited go to quranbrowser.com, which has:

    1.Six translations by Muslims.

    2.Four translations by Non-Muslims.

    3.The text in Arabic,with Latin letters.

    http://quranbrowser.com/

    Suppose a religious book said:

    “I,God will:

    1.Create hatred and enmity

    2.And it will be among black people/brown people/non-whites

    3.And it will last till the End of Time/Day of Judgement“.

    You would say it is intolerant,bad,racist,xenophobic.

    Why?

    Essentially because it is NOT about certain non-whites in a specific time and place but for non-whites till the End the Time,in generations to come,for century after century.

    Or Suppose a religious book said:

    “I,God will:

    1.Create hatred and enmity

    2.And it will be among women

    3.And it will last till the End of Time/Day of Judgement“.

    You would say it is intolerant,bad,sexist.

    Would any Muslim agree to that,I think so.The Koran commits the same error.

    Case 1

    Allah makes a Universal Curse on the Jews:to have Intra-Jewish Hatred till the Day of Resurrection
    Here is the crime of judeophobia,xenophobia,intolerance,bigotry.
    Chapter 5:64:

    “They (Note:the Jews) have said, “God’s hand is fettered/chained.” Fettered are their hands, and they are cursed for what they have said. No, but His hands are outspread; He expends how He will. And what has been sent down to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in insolence and unbelief;

    and We(Note:Allah) have cast between them enmity and hatred, till the Day of Resurrection. As often as they light a fire for war, God will extinguish it. They hasten about the earth, to do corruption there; and God loves not the workers of corruption.”

    “God’s hand is fettered/chained.”

    That is what the Jews of Arabia in Muhammad’s day had said.It means:“Allah,the God of Muhammad is powerless,impotent,can not do anything.”For that reason they were cursed in chapter 5:64.

    Consequence of Intra-Jewish Hatred

    In one case it ultimately led to 100 million people killed in the XXth century by Communism.Communism was created by a Jew who hated Jews,by Karl Marx(1818-1883).Read:

    http://www.antisharia.com/2011/02/11/allah-as-the-litteral-creator-of-evil-christiansjews-and-evil-persons/

    As for the NT it says the Jews are still God’s Chosen People

    Said by Paul,a Jew himself,there is no universal curse:

    Romans 11:1-2:

    “I ask, then: Did God reject his own people? Certainly not! I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin.2 God has not rejected his people, whom he chose from the beginning.”

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    1. hey, i want to clearify some few points the
      first point is :THE BIBLE AND NON CHRISTIANS
      the bible says :"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist." -- 2 John 7
      and it says:"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? ... Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord." -- 2 Cor.6:14-17
      further more :"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you ... Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die." -- Dt.13:6-10
      secon point: islam is based on quran and sunna those you call quran-only muslims are "fugazi'" muslims ,because rejecting sunna and following QURAN only means they are non-believers ,to those i say "PROPHET MUHAMMAD " married "AISHA" when she was 9 years old that's true
      if you want to know why he did that go to this link below
      http://parweeza17.blogspot.com/2011/04/why-prophet-muhammad-pbuh-married-aisha.html

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  20. HERE IS THE CONTENT,PART 2

    Case 2

    Another example of intolerance.

    There is also a universal curse on Christians in the Koran “till the Day of Resurrection”

    Chapter 5:14:

    “And with those who say:

    1.“We are Christians” We took compact; and they have forgotten a portion of that they were reminded of.

    2.So We(Note:Allah) have stirred up among them enmity and hatred, till the Day of Resurrection; and God will assuredly tell them of the things they wrought.”

    Case 3

    In the Koran a slave is to be freed but it is conditional,it is if the master thinks he deserves it.

    Chapter 24:33:

    “And let those who find not the means to marry be abstinent till God enriches them of His bounty.

    1.Those your right hands own (Note:slaves) who seek emancipation,

    2.Contract with them accordingly(Note:make an agreement to free them)

    3.If you know some good in them(Note:if the slave deserves it)

    and give them of the wealth of God that He has given you. And constrain not your slave-girls to prostitution, if they desire to live in chastity, that you may seek the chance goods of the present life. Whosoever constrains them, surely God, after their being constrained, is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.”

    It is also made implicit in this verse:

    Chapter 8:70:

    “O Prophet, say:

    1.To the captives (Note:people made slaves in war) in your hands:

    2.“If God knows of any good in your hearts

    3.He will give you better than what has been taken from you (Note:their freedom had been taken away), and He will forgive you; surely God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.” ”

    “You are taking the verses out of context”

    They mean to say that there is something:

    1.In the 23-year career of Muhammad and/or

    2.In the Muslim traditions,

    That limit the existence of slavery to Muhammad’s lifetime,the for Muhammad slavery was to be gradually abolished.That is not true.We know because after Muhammad died in 632 he was succeeded by:

    a)Abu Bekr,his father-in-law (ruled 632-634)

    b)Omar (one of Muhammad’s generals and friends)(ruled 634-644,assasinated)

    c)Othman(another of Muhammad’s friends)(ruled 644-656,assasinated)

    d)Ali,the son-in-law and cousin of Muhammad,married to Fatima,Muhammad’s daughter( ruled from 656-661,and was later assasinated).

    There is nothing in the documents about the friends and relatives of Muhammad that say they were for abolishing slavery,that it was only temporary,etc. The Koran-only Muslims can’t deny it.

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  21. HERE IS THE CONTENT,PART 3

    The usual counter-argument:you are being a “literalist/fundamentalist”

    That is to say:

    1.There is an alternative interpretation to chapters 5:14,chapters 5:64,chapter 24:33

    2.Because those verses can be interpreted metaphorically.

    3.To say otherwise is to commit the stupidity of literalism,fundamentalism.

    The truth is that argument is wrong,anybody can see it.

    Here are verses that can REALLY be interpreted Metaphorically

    1.In the Koran there are verses that say Allah has body parts.

    2.The Salafis believe it is literally true. For Koran-only Muslims they are being literalists/fundamentalists.

    3.They say those verses are metaphorical.But they can NOT say the same for chapters 5:14,chapters 5:64,chapter 24:33.Read

    “The Famous Salafis,the Sunni group that Literally believes Allah has a Face,Hands,Eyes,etc”

    http://www.antisharia.com/2011/05/27/the-famous-salafisthe-sunni-group-that-literally-believes-allah-has-a-facehandseyesetc/

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  22. HERE IS THE CONTENT,PART 4

    To continue with another example

    1.The Koran says a married Muslim man also have sex with slave girls to who he is NOT married.

    2.Muslims say it is not rape because in Islam it has to be consensual,if the slave girl likes the master,then he can sleep with her.

    3.Using the minimalist argument(accepting it is consensual) then we still have a case of adultery.

    When it is adultery and when it is not in Islam

    1.Now if a married Muslim man sleeps with a free woman to who he is not married it is adultery.

    2.Now if a married Muslim man sleeps with a slave woman to who he is not married it is not adultery.

    Here are the versess that say a married Muslim man can have sex with his slave girl to who he is not married(adultery)(4 Examples)

    Example 1:

    It begins by Muhammad as a Example.Notice that a in other cultures a married man sleeping with a woman to who he is not married (whether she is his slave or not) would be commitng adultery.

    Chapter 33:50-55:

    “O Prophet, We(Note:Allah) have made lawful for you(Note:for sex):

    1.Your wives who you have given their wages

    2.And what your right hand owns (Note:slaves), spoils of war that God has given you,

    3.And the daughters of your uncles paternal and aunts paternal, your uncles maternal and aunts maternal, who have emigrated with thee, and any woman believer, if she give herself to the Prophet and if the Prophet desire to take her in marriage, for you exclusively, apart from the believers.

    4.We know what We have imposed upon them touching their wives and what their right hands own (note:slaves)that there may be no fault in you; God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate………………………..Thereafter women are not lawful to you(Note:for sex), neither for you to take other wives in exchange for them, though their beauty please you, except what your right hand owns (Note:slaves); God is watchful over everything.”

    Analysis

    Notice that 2 times there is a distinction of the women into 2 different groups:

    a.The wives of Muhammad

    b.And his female slaves,which he had got through war.

    So Muhammad could sleep with a woman who was not his wife,it was not adultery,if she was his slave.

    Again there is the Distinction between the Wife of Muhammad and his Slaves

    “O believers, enter not the houses of the Prophet, except leave is given you for a meal, without watching for its hour. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have had the meal, disperse, neither lingering for idle talk; that is hurtful to the Prophet, and he is ashamed before you; but God is not ashamed before the truth. And when you ask his wives for any object, ask them from behind a curtain; that is cleaner for your hearts and theirs. It is not for you to hurt God’s Messenger, neither to marry his wives after him, ever; surely that would be, in God’s sight, a monstrous thing.Whether you reveal anything, or whether you conceal it, surely God has knowledge of everything.

    There is no fault in the Prophet’s wives touching their fathers, their sons, their brothers, their brothers’ sons, their sisters’ sons, their women, and what their right hands own. And fear you God; surely God is witness of everything.”

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  23. HERE IS THE CONTENT PART 5

    Example 2:

    Chapter 23:1-7:

    “Prosperous are the believers who in their prayers are humble and from idle talk turn away and at almsgiving are active and guard their private parts(Note:for sex)

    1.Save from their wives

    2.And what their right hands own (Note:slaves) then they are not guilty.”

    Example 3:

    Chapter 4:23-24:

    “Forbidden to you(Note:for sex) are:

    1.Your mothers and daughters, your sisters, your aunts paternal and maternal, your brother’s daughters, your sister’s daughters, your mothers who have given suck to you, your suckling sisters, your wives’ mothers, your stepdaughters who are in your care being born of your wives you have been in to, but if you have not yet been in to them it is no fault in you,and the spouses of your sons who are of your loins, and that you should take to you two sisters together, unless it be a thing of the past; God is All-forgiving, All-compassionate;

    2.And wedded women,

    save what your right hands own(Note:slaves).”

    Analysis

    Notice the married Muslim can sleep with his slave woman even if she is a married slave woman,married to somebody else

    “So God prescribes for you. Lawful for you, beyond all that, is that you may seek, using your wealth, in wedlock and not in licence. Such wives as you enjoy thereby, give them their wages apportionate; it is no fault in you in your agreeing together, after the due apportionate. God is All-knowing, All-wise.”

    Example 4:

    “And go in fear of the chastisement of their Lord,from their Lord’s chastisement none feels secure,and guard their private parts (Note:for sex)
    save:

    1.From their wives

    2.And what their right hands own, then not being blameworthy

    but who seeks after more than that, they are the transgressors.”

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  24. Any more bollocks from minioria :)

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    1. The Face of Islam makes itself known everyday; the good, the bad and the ugly. It is not hard to see which group you belong in skouti. You are a lamb being led to slaughter by Muhammad.

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    2. muslims are led by "MUHAMMAD" (pbuh),non-muslims are converting to islam these days ,because they need an honest leader in thier lives,and because they can't find a one who's better than prophet "MUHAMMAD"(the most influential person ever) .

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    3. Yes, I forgot to say Peebuh.

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    4. you primitive dick-head , pee be upon your lesbian sister who's led by lady gaga . haha!and your cock sucking mother , and shit be upon your gay brother ...freaking homo...

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  25. Put a sock in it donny bwoy :)

    Still comical how the FAKE BLOGGER is still bitchin n moanin like a pussy about her lot in life. Dig deep bitch and find some "balls", take a lil personal responsibility for yer actions. You made yer bed so go lie/die in it, LOL. But no, like her alter ego the hapless spencer this bitch blames Islam for everything........how original!!!!

    Notice how spencer's creation doesn't actually reply to her own supporters.....man that's gotta be a kick in the gonads for u lot. Would a real person do that in their own blog? Think about it :) plus it has been pointed that the drivel being posted by the FAKE MURTARD is not credible given the so called facts being presented about her and that is coming from spencers own fans........shame!

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    1. "Notice how spencer's creation doesn't actually reply to her own supporters.....man that's gotta be a kick in the gonads for u lot."

      Actually it doesnt bother me in the least. But for the sex starved/ rape-fetish minded/ deprived mindless zombie followers of the control-freak/megalomaniac/ paedophile "prophet" Mohammad, who failed to prophesy his own death by poisoning by a Jewish woman whose family he had butchered it must hurt a bit that she ignores you, despite your foul mouthed abuse.

      Go dip flies in your food and drink camel urine you piece of shit.

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  26. "Actually it doesnt bother me in the least"

    yup, it burns you up to the next level, we can tell sunshine..... ROFLMAO!!!!

    oh man too funny when backward ass crackers like that come crawlin out of the woodwork

    havin fun with the rest of the edl wankers son.....heard yr own leader, tommy "the tit" robinson is proper banged up :)

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  27. The mohammedans making these profane statements and verbal attacks on posters here are simply more evidence of the complete bankruptcy of islam. It shows clearly the immorality and cruelty of the followers of mahound. He was wretched, paranoid, violent and evil, and so are they.


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    1. Don't juge ISLAM by MUSLIMS,you can juge muslims by thier actions ,but you need to read deep about islam (the peaceful religion),I myself ,been in different moods on this blog here,I've been good with those who were good and I've been rude to those who were "so" rude ,read back my comments they might help you understand about islam and "PROPHET MUHAMMAD" (pbuh),and also read back your comment,it will show you how cruel and offensive you are ,periode!

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