I am at work right now but not able to concentrate on anything because there is this deep anger and bitterness inside me which is making it impossible to live a normal life. So I thought, let me start writing and release the tension right away, or else I will end up having a nervous breakdown. Why am I so stressed? Even I do not know for sure, but I guess it is just the people around me who make me mad. I mean these fanatic Muslims who have nothing better to do all day except pray, recite the Quran and share that moron’s anecdotes with other equally stupid idiots.
Someone has commented on my last post that why don’t I share it with my parents instead of writing about it on the blog? I think either that guy is mentally challenged or he is just a sadist who wants to read about yet another honor killing in the Muslim world. My parents are really staunch Muslims. My dad prays in the mosque five times a day and my mom wears the burqa and prays 6 times a day, 5 obligatory prayers and then an additional one called Tahajjud. There is no way I can share with parents or my siblings or any of my relatives, and not even with my Muslim friends or colleagues. If my family ever finds out, they might not kill me, but they will definitely disown me for life.
The only reason I am writing this blog is because I need to release my pent up frustrations and this is the only way I can do it, an anonymous blog. None of you can understand my predicament unless and until you also happen to be an ex-Muslim. Even now, I get nightmares every night where I am either fasting or praying or circumambulating around that black square object in Mecca. I get panic attacks each time I pass by a mosque or hear or see people praying. I have spent 35 years in an evil cult and it is so difficult to get over it or put it behind me. Sometimes, I even feel suicidal because I just cannot take it anymore, I feel extremely lonely and disconnected from the people around me. I feel totally alienated from my own family and I feel this suffocation inside me which is really killing me.
When I was in school, we were taught Islamic studies right from kindergarten till grade 12, and even during my graduation, Islamic studies was a compulsory subject. We were taught a whitewashed version of Mohammed’s biography which depicted him as a saint, a kind hearted and loving prophet of God who wanted a Utopian society where everyone believed in one God. He was a poor orphan who lost his mother at the age of 6 and then was brought up by his grandfather and uncle, then married a woman 15 years older than him. He defended this people from the enemy and the wars that he fought were only defensive. This was what I knew all my life until recently when I read the truth behind his benevolent demeanor, when I was exposed to books such as Understanding Muhammad, The Truth about Muhammad, The Cult of the Moon God, Why I am not a Muslim and several other similar books. One day, I want to write a book as well, about my past life and a typical Muslim woman’s life, the challenges she faces on a day to day basis. In fact, I already got an offer to co-write a book, and I am seriously considering the possibility of doing it.
But before I do that, the blog thing is not a bad idea at all, all thanks to my dear friend & well wisher Robert Spencer. By the way, someone seriously thinks that I happen to be Robert’s alter ego or something like that... Well, to put an end to such baseless rumors, I would appreciate if you could have a look at the following links. Now don’t tell me that Robert would actually go through such lengths to prove his point. Come on guys, he has better things to do than this….Anyway, the following are a few questions that I wrote to Ali Sina when I first started having doubts regarding my beliefs. I have also written to Daniel Pipes, David Wood and Pamela Geller. Now don’t tell me that Robert pretended to be some Shakila and wrote to all of these people. Don’t you think that is far too desperate even if he wants to prove his point that Islam is a hoax? No one can hate anyone or anything that much, to go to such lengths.
I am not trying to defend myself. I don’t care what you think of me but I do feel terribly guilty when you make Robert seem to stoop so low.
Cheers
Shakila
http://alisina.org/what-is-my-identity/
http://alisina.org/cult-rehabilitation/
http://alisina.org/muhammads-prophecy-of-romans-victory/
http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/apostates-of-islam/liberated/
I will pray for you for comfort. I would suggest you read the New Testament. Try not to be concerned about critics. Either they are ignorant of Islam or they are Muslims trying to lure you back to the doctrine of evil.
ReplyDeleteGod bless you, Shakila.
Lord have mercy......straight out of the spencer playbook. Did I not predict correctly that the so called liberated one started this blog because she was scared of her parents/family.....too comical indeed.
ReplyDelete"Someone has commented on my last post that why don’t I share it with my parents instead of writing about it on the blog? I think either that guy is mentally challenged or he is just a sadist who wants to read about yet another honor killing in the Muslim world."
Yes, I predicted the scenario above. Has anyone else noticed how bitter and twisted these apostates are, I mean they really are damaged goods aren't they. Honestly feel sorry for the poor man who ends up shacked up with this one....having to endure her nonsense.....you just know its going end in tears.
"There is no way I can share with parents or my siblings or any of my relatives, and not even with my Muslim friends or colleagues. If my family ever finds out, they might not kill me, but they will definitely disown me for life."
Honey, you so really need to be disowned. I actually feel sorry for Christianity having to put up with you. Islam should throw a party to celebrate your exit. on the flip side, you should see the converts to Islam who are really nice people and then compare them to this liberated one who has done nothing but spew vitriol and hate about Islam.
"I get panic attacks each time I pass by a mosque or hear or see people praying."
I would recommend either a good shrink or a good sedative to relax you.
Congrats for liberation from devil cult. May Lord Shiva bless you.
ReplyDeleteOm TatSat
Om Namah Shivay
@Skouti
ReplyDelete"Has anyone else noticed how bitter and twisted these apostates are, I mean they really are damaged goods aren't they"
Yes, they are. That's what islam tends to do to people.
Thanks for pointing that out, Reza!
@skouti
ReplyDelete"you should see the converts to Islam who are really nice people and then compare them to this liberated one who has done nothing but spew vitriol and hate about Islam."
Oh they're nice if you consider Jew-hating, anti-American, hateful Christianophobes, "nice people." Met plenty of them in Istanbul. Their hate filled vitriol is what gets them invited into the "club."
skouti wrote:
ReplyDeleteHas anyone else noticed how bitter and twisted these apostates are...
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How "twisted" not to want to be "honor killed"! sarc/off
More:
on the flip side, you should see the converts to Islam who are really nice people
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Would that include the converts to Islam waging violent Jihad, cursing the Infidels, and threatening to kill apostates like "Liberated"?
Note to Liberated:
I can see why this is stressing you out.
But remember, you have far more supporters than otherwise here. Hang in there...
Shakila,
ReplyDeleteDon't give up hope. There is a loving god and you are his beloved daughter. We are all his children. This entire universe we know as our mortal experience was created by him for our benefit; although, some folks have a more pleasant experience than others. We are here for three, possibly four major purposes: first, to inherit a physical body; second, to be tried to see if we will follow good and righteousness or bad and evil; third, to develop faith (a power and instrument of incomprehensible ability); and fourth, to learn to love: ourselves, our family, our neighbors, our fellowmen. Please, do not ever despair to the point that you hate anything by falsehood, injustice, and evil.
There are many faiths and many religions. I am a Christian. There are many denominations of Christians because the "wolves" have enter into the flocks and have led many astray to their destruction, either unintentionally from their well-meaning ignorance, or intentionally, out of their lusts for power and influence. I pray you will be able to sort through the different teachings and find your way.
My own search led me to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the Mormons. It preaches "the Restored Gospel" of Jesus Christ and is led by a living prophet. Judge by the fruits of the church whether it is what it proclaims to be, a restoration of the true church established by Jesus Christ. Please, when investigating, don't be confused by the various sects that have separated from the main body with heretical/apostate believes and call themselves by similar names, but look to the main body headquartered in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. Amongst the Saints you will find true followers of Jesus, who practise loving concern for others and work to build one anothers' hope and faith. With love, that is more than words, but concern, care, and aid.
God bless you in your search for freedom and truth.
I feel what you are saying, I have left a christian cult some years back and get that same feeling.. Although not as intense as what you have described.. Avoid at all costs people that just seek for you to join their group like Quiet_dave or anyone else that preaches "the way" or "true followers" damning everyone else who does not see things their way. It possible to seek and find the lord without a congregation. I am doing it now.. and together with counseling I have made great strides you are not alone if you want someone to talk to I'm here @toolbag187 on twitter..
ReplyDeleteShakila,
ReplyDeleteI am continuing to pray for you.
Not everyone who is on a spiritual quest is full of hate. Jesus taught his followers to be lovers, not haters.
You are right, I don't know fully what you are going through, but I do sympathize and feel concern for you. Many of Jesus' followers have lived under persecution. Although I personally have not experienced persecution I know that He can give you the strength to stand.
I am praying for you.
Peter
Prior to 1978, Mormons forbid blacks from joining the Mormon Church.
ReplyDeleteShakila,
ReplyDeleteHere is a web site that might be of help to you.
http://www.answering-islam.org/
God bless you
Peter
@SOA - and your point is...?
ReplyDeleteShakila, as an observant Jew, I do understand the shackles you wear from your family. For many years, I struggled between what my father wanted from me religiously and what I was. Of course, I didn't have the threat of death if I left the flock. But I did have the fear of abandonment. It was only after a near-death experience that brought me strength in my own faith.
I wish you much peace in your journey and hope that you are able to fully escape the Hell you are living in. The influences you have (Spencer, Geller) are are wonderful people who truly understand the danger of what Islam is.
G0dspeed.
Shakila,
ReplyDeleteWelcome to freedom. You have many friends all over the world. Be strong.
@skouti,
ReplyDeleteThanks for that. Your obvious, over-the-top, frustrated, emotional rant just reinforces everything that Shakila said about the laddies death cult know as Islam.
Pay these mentally stunted troglodytes no heed here Shakila and welcome to the light of God's grace.
Memo to all those HATERS(too many to mention by name but you cretins know who you are):
ReplyDeleteplease take the so called liberated one at once to whatever christian church etc.....doing the world a huge favour. Lets move on.....please :)
I think you will be a hypocrite for not telling your parents. you are 35 years old and I don't know why are you afraid of getting disowned. Because you seem to be pretty confident about making right decisions. You can always find new friends and why should one look towards parents for whom you have no respect. For muslims Islam is a way to live life and in your case you will be living double standards all your life against your will (or may be for financial gains). I am a muslim and proud to be one and my parents never forced me to learn what they believed. I researched Judaism, Christianity and simply disagree with their beliefs. A RELIGION THAT CAN BE MOLDED TO ADJUST WITH TIME CAN NEVER BE A TRUE RELIGION BECAUSE RIGHT IS ALWAYS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG and Islam gives you a way to live which is perfect under all circumstances. we will all find out who is right pretty soon, either when we die (life is short) or may be soon to occur future events which can occur in our life time (You can get details from your friends and family or Robert Spencer).
ReplyDeletewell stated Stoned7
ReplyDelete@skouti
ReplyDeleteYou are such a imposing moron. Why don't you straighten up your grammar before you make fun off people for their shortcomings and fears? I think you sir are one of the many roaches in the world that just love to have their say, but when they are scrutinized they'll cower like the roaches they are.
@Liberated
ReplyDeleteIt seems that your fear is real, as well as great. But you needn't worry about it aimlessly. The Lord said: "I tell you, my friends, do not fear those who kill the body, and after that have nothing more that they can do. But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him! Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? And not one of them is forgotten before God. Why, even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not; you are of more value than many sparrows. And I tell you, everyone who acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man also will acknowledge before the angels of God, but the one who denies me before men will be denied before the angels of God. And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. And when they bring you before the synagogues and the rulers and the authorities, do not be anxious about how you should defend yourself or what you should say, for the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say." (Luke 12)
Examples of this are many, Father Zakaria Botros, who has a 60 million dollar bounty on his head by Mujahideen, Robert Spencer who has been blacklisted by Mujahideen, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who has also left Islam in a nation where many "honour killings" have also occurred and there are certainly several others if you know where to look.
Look around you Liberated, if you stay calm, there should certainly be areas that the Lord has opened to secure your safety, you just need to venture and look for them.
Realize that Christians and Jews have been murdered for centuries, and not solely by Muslims, for their faith. However, they realize their plight is not fruitless, which is why they continue on, perhaps fearing the consequences, but persevering despite them.
God willing, you'll find the correct path to take soon.
@Liberated
ReplyDelete"And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying: 3 "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 "Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. 5 "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. 6 "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied. 7 "Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy. 8 "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. 9 "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. 10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 "Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you. 13 "You are the salt of the earth, but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled under people's feet. 14 "You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Nor do people light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven. 17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. [...] "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' 39 But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if anyone would sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. 41 And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42 Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you. [...] 43 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? 48 You therefore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." (Matthew 5)
Some last advice :P " "And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you." (Matthew 6:6-7)
Praise be to God in the Highest!
May Peace of the Messiah be with you!
Stoned7:
ReplyDeleteThe only Hypocrites are you Muslims who have Azaan calls everyday to say "Oh look here is the Might of our Lord!" In reality, as Liberated has put forth, your God doesn't exist, and your Prophet was a liar!
"Narrated 'Aisha: 'Allah's Messenger used to like sweets and also used to like honey.'"
(Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible: rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits and Grace from their Lord. Be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire and be given to drink boiling water so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)? (Qur'an 47: 15)
Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 4.647
Narrated by Abu Huraira
The Prophet said, "I met Moses on the night of my Ascension to heaven.".....
Then I was made to ascend to Sidrat-ul-Muntaha (i.e. the Lote Tree of the utmost boundary) Behold! Its fruits were like the jars of Hajr (i.e. a place near Medina) and its leaves were as big as the ears of elephants. Gabriel said, 'This is the Lote Tree of the utmost boundary.' Behold! There ran four rivers; two were hidden and two were visible. I asked, 'What are these two kinds of rivers, O Gabriel?' He replied, 'As for the hidden rivers, they are two rivers in Paradise and the visible rivers are the Nile and the Euphrates.'
Then Al-Bait-ul-Ma'mur (i.e. the Sacred House) was shown to me and a container full of wine and another full of milk and a third full of honey were brought to me. I took the milk. Gabriel remarked, 'This is the Islamic religion which you and your followers are following.' Then the prayers were enjoined on me: They were fifty prayers a day."
Sahih Al-Bukhari 7.514 Narrated by Ibn Abbas
Allah's Apostle drank milk and then rinsed his mouth and said, "It contains fat." The Prophet added: -I was raised to the Lote Tree and saw four rivers, two of which were coming out and two going in. Those which were coming out were the Nile and the Euphrates, and those which were going in were two rivers in paradise. Then I was given three bowls, one containing milk, and another containing honey, and a third containing wine. I took the bowl containing milk and drank it. It was said to me, "You and your followers will be on the right path (of Islam)."
Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5641 Narrated by Anas ibn Malik
"When Allah's Messenger was asked what al-Kawthar was he replied, "That is a river Allah has given me (meaning in Paradise), whiter than milk and sweeter than honey, containing birds whose necks are like the necks of sacrificial camels." Umar remarked, "These have a pleasant life," and Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) replied, "Those who eat them have a pleasanter life."
Al-Tirmidhi Hadith 5650
Narrated by Hakim ibn Mu'awiyah
"Allah's Messenger said, "In Paradise there are a great river of water, a great rivers of honey, a great river of milk and a great river of wine; then the smaller river will be divided off."
Isn't it IRONIC that the Messenger of Allah LOVED HONEY AND SWEETS according to the "Umm al-Mumineen" Aishah, and WHAT DO YOU GET IN THE HEAVEN OF ALLAH!? HONEY AND SWEETS! What a CONVENIENT HEAVEN!
God knows.
Liberated, I wish you a speedy recovery from the mind-virus that is Islam ("As dangerous in a man as rabies in a dog" - Winston Churchill.) The anger and bitterness you experience are the poisons that this malignant meme has left in your mind.
ReplyDeleteYour family are unfortunately still infected with this contagious mental disease, and may never be cured.
Like a virus such as rabies a successful meme performs two actions:
- Overpowers the resistance of its host.
- Brings about the conditions for its spread.
To establish itself in the mind of its host Islam will use some or all of the following mechanisms:
[1] Promise heaven for belief. This may involve frustrating the host's normal sexual urges and redirecting them into sexual fantasies of the hereafter.
[2] Threaten eternal punishment in hell for disbelief.
[3] Boost the believers' egos by telling them they are 'chosen' or superior to believers in false memes.
[4] Disable the faculties of disbelief ('immune response') by claiming that faith is superior to reason.
[5] Establish itself as the One True Meme, usually by some sort of holy book containing a circular self-referential argument such as:
X is the one true meme. We know X is the one true meme because The Source of Universal Truth has approved X. We know The Source of Universal Truth has approved X, because X contains statements which say so. We know what X says is true because X is the one true meme.
Once it has parasitised the mind of its host, a meme needs to propagate itself. A successful meme will contain instructions for some or all of the following:
[6] Holy war - convert or kill all unbelievers.
[7] Intimidation and terrorism - threaten and discriminate against unbelievers.
[8] Enforced social isolation or even death to apostates. (An apostate is a host which has cured itself of a meme-infection. It is especially dangerous to the meme because it might pass on meme-resistance to others).
[9] Fecundism - encourage true believers to breed faster than believers in false memes.
[10] Censorship - prevent rival memes from reaching potential hosts (a theological doctrine known as 'Error has no rights') and forbid rational analysis of the meme itself.
[11] Disinformation - spread lies about rival memes.
More on memes
Usama,
ReplyDeleteStay classy as a HATER
http://spencerwatch.com/
enjoy :)
Yes, well-stated and absolutely true. We all know that the permanence of Islam is the foundation of Islam's claim of validation, that the divinity of the Koran is immutable and unchanged, since the time of the oral tradition that originally passed it on. I mean what is so hard to believe about that? Forget the multiple variations of English language translations of the Koran, vetted by Muslims. Who could possibly challenge that every single Muslim didn't orally pass on the Koran with absolute perfection, since we all know that people are infallible...wait, that doesn't make sense.
ReplyDeleteOf course, if the Koran isn't divine, then logically Islam is a complete fraud, nothing more than the illiterate ramblings of a morally-challenged, desert warlord pedophile, building a story of a god, with plagiarisms from the previously existing texts of Judaism and Christianity, who not only hated those heretic people, but also forbade idolatry of any kind. That is why Allah obviously showed divine favor to Mohammed alone....wait. That doesn't make any sense.
Anyway, these are common criticisms of Islam's so-called prophet and exemplary moral figure Mohammed. Notice that none of these accusations or murder, rape, pillage are ever directed at the literary figure of Christ. This is quite simply because, unlike Islam's canonical texts, there is no Christian doctrinal support to those claims.
Muslim males deal with these logical conundrums every day, because to them Islam represents individual male power protected by a larger group, the Ummah. You certainly don't see women front and center advocating Islam, yeah sure there are some female shills appropriated through duress for this cause but let's be real honest here...Islam supports traditional Arab male societal dominance akin to what was commonplace in and around the 7th Century. Islam doesn't really concern itself with its women and children and for sure, has no concern for non-Muslims in totality.
With its penalty against apostasy, marriage laws and the like, Islam is a virus designed to always expand. Mohammed may have been an absolute piece of shit, and illiterate, but he wasn't stupid. No, what is stupid are the countless Muslims who self-delude to think that the duality inherent in the Koran, Allah's supposed mind-changing in tone and tolerance of non-Muslims between the Meccan and Medinan verses revealed respectively, based on Mohammed’s power and influence in the Arabian Peninsula, doesn't really exist. Sure they use them regularly like 2:256, when convenient, only to be usurped by other verses less palatable. And of course, the 5:32 blathering, while omitting the correlation and context of 5:33, but we who have put a modicum of effort into the education about Islam, are not fooled.
There comes a point where one needs to believe their own lying eyes and acknowledge the words and actions spoken and perpetrated by Muslims globally on a daily basis. The empirical evidence is staggering, and scarily consistent.
The skoutis of the world, and his cowardly anonymous master danios, and their cowardly anonymous ilk on those sites he purviews, can do nothing to offset this growing awareness.
awake or not,
ReplyDeleteMan that was deep......seriously. Close call but you just hit toppled the Mad/liberated/ One off the number one spot in the Unhinged League
http://spencerwatch.com/
enjoy
BTW, just curious but since we appear to have accumulated all the Islam HATERs here, is this blog actually preaching to the converted ? Think about it
Shakila:
ReplyDeletePlease, do not get stressed by this sorry excuse for man called "skouti", who is trying to denigrate you, and to bitter your newly found freedom.
Millions of free human beings are standing with you, praying for you, wishing you, and all brave ex-muslims, the best.
How hard it is for the searching soul to realize it has been searching, for too long, in the wrong place. I know you are angry, angry at God, angry at Mohammed, angry at the people around you, angry at yourself even. But never regret. You were raised with a 'white-washed' version of Mohammed, of Islam, and that is why you have your humanity.
ReplyDeleteI remind myself, when my mother, a religious Muslim, speaks of Mohammed: "I love her Mohammed, even if he isn't real."
Of course you are angry, of course you feel lonely, of course you feel deceived. But you are out of it. We are out of it.
For those who belittle what 'apostates' go through, I want to say: True, we may not be killed, but the fact that everyone around us believes we should be killed isn't a consolation to us. The fact that the people we love, our family, our friends may not stand with us anymore, may not want to look at us, may consider us 'dead' to them is a terrible thought. And we live knowing that the smiles we receive from some people around us will immediately turn to frowns if they knew who we really were.
It's awful to live with. I'm so sorry, Shakila.
"Millions of free human beings are standing with you, praying for you, wishing you, and all brave ex-muslims, the best. "
ReplyDeleteReally........seriously folks......ease up on the Jesus Juice there Martin. Millions don't give a rats ass about this blog. Millions are trying, given the current economic woes, to get on with their lives
Well done, Liberated, for leaving this dreadful "religion", Islam. Unfortunately, it looks like Islam won't leave you alone! I hope the muslim morons hassling you on your website will get the point and MOVE ON... Keep strong. Freedom can be tough when there is also fear and isolation, but it is infinitely worth it and you have many supporters. And future generations will be grateful for people like yourself :)
ReplyDeleteLiberated:
ReplyDeletePlease ignore these fascist mohammedans. I'm certain that you know their type all too well by now. I have just a few comments for them:
musloids are rarely completely informed about the precepts of their own cult. I recommend going to http://www.jihadwatch.org and reading articles and comments there, as well as checking out islam 101 and qur’an commentary on the upper left side of the main page. Here’s something interesting:
salah replied to comment from Ronald W. Carnine | November 23, 2011 10:33 AM | Reply
“What does bother me is when people become educated but still stay with Islam. That makes no sense.”
رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين وقبل زبيبته . رواه الطبراني واسناده حسن
Translation:
I saw the Messenger of Allah peace be upon him putting Hussein’s legs apart (a six year old boy) and kissing his (little) penis. Reported by Al-Tabarani and it’s authentication is good.
When people become educated and able to read this hadith but still stay with Islam. Yeah, that makes no sense! Is it brainwashing, fear, perversion, pride or stupidity?
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2010/04/penis-and-prophet-un-penis-et-un.html
CGW replied to comment from salah | November 23, 2011 2:26 PM | Reply
islam in its entirety is a disgusting perversion that has no place in the modern world.
It simply can’t go away fast enough.
How about that prophet mohammed (pig shit be upon him) of yours? Do you deny that he had sex with a nine-tear-old, raped scores of others, murdered, looted, plundered and massacred? And does your cult not decree that he is the model man, his behavior to be emulated FOR ALL TIME? Does your so-called “holy book” not call for the subjugation of all non-mohammedans and the extermination of Jews until the entire world follows islam? How about the extermination of homsexuals as demanded by islam? Can you even attempt to answer these questions truthfully, or do you just engage in taqiyya to cover your collective mohammedan ass?
mohammed was just "allah's" aka Satan's butt-buddy. They're both having a good laugh in Hell about how they fooled so many mahoundians into believing in their pigshit cult!
We the Kafirin are onto you, musloids. We will insure that islam perishes, wiped from the face of the Earth. Make no mistake about it. Enlightened Western Civilization shall prevail over your evil, barbaric blood-cult.
And guess what? Until we finish the job and rid the universe of your evil scourge, you musloids will be made to SUBMIT – yes, SUBMIT – TO THE WILL OF THE KAFIRIN BY WAY OF WESTERN LAWS.
Willing or not, you will submit or suffer the consequences.
islam is the enemy of Freedom. It is the enemy of the world. Humankind will never fight an evil that is more deadly and destructive, and devoted to that purpose.
BTW Liberated, DO NOT respond directly to anyone giving you their email address on this blog. They may be trying to track you through your IP address. If you wish to correspond with anyone, do it through Robert. I know him personally, and he's a wonderful fellow!
Best of luck to you, and we at JW will continue to follow your progress.
Skouti wrote:
ReplyDelete"Millions don't give a rats ass about this blog."
True, but Skouti cares a great deal, so much so that he posts again and again how unimportant this blog is.
Cognitive dissonance must be a dreadful condition . . .
Jeffery Hodges
* * *
@skouti
ReplyDeleteBelieve it or not, I go to Spencer Watch once in a while, because it's a bunch of nonsense. I don't care about what Spencer, Geller, etc. say, I care what ALLAH and MUHAMMAD say, I posted it, but you didn't answer me. The point is that the Prophet of Islam is a deceiver, and I gave you the reason why.
Stay strong, Liberated, and don't let trolls like skouti and stoned7 bring you down. Rejoice that you've thrown off those Islamic shackles! God bless you!
ReplyDeleteskouti - you are such a moron, why don't you ever answer questions? I forgot, you have learnt form Mo - a taquia master - avoid any hard questions. Call them haters or islamaphobic or any other crap that you think of. Islam is for crooks - no wonder Islamic women are leaving it by the truck lode. I know hows it is painful for you. Poor soul, my tear drops are doing press-ups when I read your posts.
ReplyDeleteBTW - I think Mr. Spencer should sue you for copying his style of web-site. Did it ever occur to you the Moslums ALWAYS lack originality, no matter what?
Shakila, if your parents would disown you for your leaving Islam, they're not worthy of your love, or even your friendship. You’re better off without them. Try your best to get out of the Islamic Hell hole you are in, and get to a civilized country.
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ReplyDeleteIn the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic) we learn how in Khaybar Muhammad ordered the torture of a man in order to get hold of a treasure, then beheaded the man, and how that night Muhammad took into his private tent for consummation of "marriage" the tortured man's widow, whose father and other male relatives Muhammad had just killed:
ReplyDelete"Kinana b. al-Rabi, who had the custody of the treasure of the B. al-Nadir, was brought to the apostle who asked him about it. He denied that he knew where it was. A Jew came (Tabari says "was brought") to the apostle and said that he had seen Kinana going round a certain ruin every morning early. When the apostle [Muhammad] said to Kinana, 'Do you know that if we find you have it I shall kill you?' he said Yes. The apostle gave orders that the ruin was to be excavated and some of the treasure was found. When he asked him about the rest he refused to produce it, so the apostle [Muhammad] gave orders to al-Zubayr b. al-'Awwam, 'Torture him until you extract what he has,' so he kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head in revenge for his brother Mahmud."
[-- page 515 (763-764 in the Arabic)]
"...The apostle took captives...among whom was Safiya d. Huyayy b. Akhtab who had been the wife of Kinana b. al-Rabi’ b. Abu’l-Huqayq, and two cousins of hers. The apostle chose Safiya for himself."
[-- page 511 (758 in the Arabic)]
"When the apostle married Safiya in Khaybar or on the way, she having been beautified and combed, and got in a fit state for the apostle by Umm Sulaym d. Milhan mother of Anas b. Malik, the apostle passed the night with her in a tent of his. Abu Ayyub, Khalid b. Zayd brother of B. al-Najjar passed the night girt with his sword, guarding the apostle and going round the tent until in the morning the apostle saw him and asked him what he meant by his action. He replied, ‘I was afraid for you with this woman for you have killed her father, her husband, and her people, and till recently she was in unbelief, so I was afraid for you on her account.’ They allege that the apostle said ‘O God, preserve Abu Ayyub as he spent the night preserving me."’
[-- page 516-517 (766 in the Arabic)]
To all:
ReplyDeleteskouti's main argument is to use insult and ad hominem. He calls people "haters." All he's got is insult. He cannot argue on the merits. Do not stoop to insult him in reply. When you insult him back, that is exactly what he wants, because it makes his opponents in argument look terrible and ignorant. That is why he is trying to get under your skin. Do not fall for it by insulting him back. He wants to make you look bad to those still learning about these issues. If you have nothing of merit to answer back, be mature enough to stay silent or man up and do some research until you can answer back without even a tinge of insults that only make you and those who agree with you look terrible. The only people impressed with your insults are those who already agree with you. I understand your anger very well. But the people who don't already have knowledge and are still on the fence and are trying to educate themselves will often be turned off if you insult people like skouti. When you use insult you may make yourself feel better for a time, but only at the cost of hurting your argument. Ad hominem and insult are a sign of weakness and inability to argue on the merits. We need people who can argue on the merits. Show your mettle and keep silent if you cannot respond without insult. It may be painful, but keep your eye on the longer term. Do not let people like skouti marginalize you in the eyes of the broader public who are still on the fence and haven't had time to study this issue. If he baits you, do not get angry. Either ignore the insult, or answer the insult like Mr. Spock on Star Trek. Do not be emotionally incontinent. Control your emotions and keep your eye on the battlefield. Put your emotions into doing a little research to make a better argument or answer back.
I say all this as much to myself as to anyone else.
@Quiet_Dave
ReplyDeleteI would appreciate it if you would click the link to my profile to register at FreedomBulwark.net and send me a private message so we can discuss Mormon counterjihad issues.
Thanks
You won't be truly liberated until you realize you have only swapped one "evil cult" for another.
ReplyDeleteRealize that the Christian god is as much a figment of the imagination as the Muslim god is, and you'll truly be liberated.
Joseph, leaving aside the Christian God or particular theologies, let me ask you this. Do you think everything is matter? Is there anything non-physical in your universe?
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ReplyDeleteUgh. Ignore the Christians. The last thing you need is to exchange the shackles of one religion for the yoke of another. You obviously have the intelligence, honesty, and strength of will to reject your childhood indoctrination; I hope you will employ those same tools in your examination of the other cults which claim to have "The Answer".
ReplyDeleteYou've made a great start - don't stop now!
To those Muslims who think Shakila is Robert Spencer, I would like to say that I have seen her pictures and I must say that Robert looks really pretty as a woman. :)
ReplyDeleteAli Sina
What if, as the Islam Haters claim, Muhammad did not exist, what would they do? Kinda makes them all redundant doesnt it?
ReplyDeleteUnless they plan to carry on hating someone who doesnt exist?
skouti, all you seem to have is ad hominem, calling people names, like "haters." That's not an argument. It's just a verbal assault.
ReplyDeletePerhaps you are trying to make people angry, so they will start insulting you and then they will look very petty.
Muhammad, in core Islamic texts, rejects religious pluralism
ReplyDeleteFor example, in Sahih Muslim, a canonical hadith collection.Book 19, No. 4366
"It has been narrated by Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah [Muhammad] (may peace be upon him) say:'I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.' "
@Usama
ReplyDeleteDamn too much hate here. why don't you ask Shakila that why is she so scared to lose her devoted muslims parents and freinds (who are moron and hepocrites according to you).
A person sees what he wants to see when they are brain blind and deaf. Please do me a favor and study all the religions and compare them. If you are athesit then your hopeless.
In Sahih al-Bukhari, the most canonical hadith collection, Muhammad said,
ReplyDelete"Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him."
Various other canonical hadiths attest that Muhammad called for death to those who leave Islam. That's why even today all the schools of Islamic law prescribe death for apostasy from Islam.
Bless you, Ali Sina.
ReplyDeleteIn core Islamic texts, Muhammad says beat your wife, no questions asked
ReplyDeleteIn Sunan Abu Dawud, a canonical hadith collection:
Book 11, Number 2142:
"Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife."
"Damn too much hate here."
ReplyDeleteThat's the MO of the spencer trolls. They offer nothing but pure HATE
skouti has only ad hominem and insult, like calling people haters. He cannot argue on the merits, so he uses verbal abuse.
ReplyDeleteQur'an says non-Muslims will be punished with hooked rods of iron
ReplyDeleteQuran 22:19 to 22:22:
"These twain (the believers and the disbelievers) are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads,
Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted;
And for them are hooked rods of iron.
Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of burning."
Hey Usama,
ReplyDeleteShakila’s parents are not moron. Muslims are misguided. Shakila and I were also misguided, but not morons. We learned the truth by doing just what you say. We compared all the religions and used our brain and found out Islam is a lie. There is some good in all religions. There is nothing but evil in Islam. We invite you to do the same. And I can’t agree with you more when you say a person sees what he wants to see. All my life I wanted to see Islam is the best religion and I successfully managed to fool myself. Like all other Muslims I refused to read any book written against Islam. It was after I read the Quran that my eyes were opened.
I invite you to read my book and if you still believe Islam is true, write to me and show my errors. I am open to changing my mind if you can prove me wrong.
skouti,
ReplyDeleteI disagree with those who say Muhammad did not exist. He existed and was very real. Anyone who claims Muhammad did not exist has not read the Sira. It is impossible to fabricate that story. Impossible! Muhammad existed and we know every detail of his life. We can know him so well that I could actually psychoanalyze him just by reading his biography.
I appreciate what Shakila has expressed about the lack of freedom for women in Islam, evil cult propagating terrorism in the name of Jihad etc.,I am a Hindu and I believe in Universal, Man-Making Religions, fearing for God and doing evil things.I hvn't read Quran but my knowing of JIHAD is that, if four persons are going in forest (3 persons from Islam and another from other religion) and a Lion attacks, all the three persons from Islam should try to protect the other religion fellow. This is what is JIHAD. So,on earth, we should shun Evil doing religions, otherwise time only will teach it. Shakira is not only the women who has come out, but there are many such cases. Time will come when there will be UNIVERSAL RELIGION, because GOD IS ONLY ONE and it is only Man's Realisation that is required. We each are like a FISH from SPIRITUAL WORLD, and all Religions are like Different Rivers and when we swim in one River, we get used to that River qualities. This is all life and world, and we come here for SENSE PLEASURES,SEX,MONEY,POWER ETC.,//rm agadi//
ReplyDeleteAli Sina, please make your book available on kindle...
ReplyDeleteI am an atheist and happy to be. Without the constraints of religion, you live better, more objective and calm, and, especially, more tolerant. No one is more tolerant of an atheist. Erase (all) religions and many problems will disappear.
ReplyDeleteangelo, it depends on the atheist. Many atheists are tolerant. But the communist atheists killed many, many religious people precisely because they were religious, imprisoned and starved countless more religious people, and used brute force to prevent hundreds of millions of religious people from merely discussing religion freely. So atheists can be fanatics. And plenty of religious people are extremely tolerant. Some religious doctrines are much more tolerant than other religious doctrines. The situation is more complicated than you seem to realize...
ReplyDeletehey hey... Shakila...are you planning on leaving the current Muslim country you are currently residing in? lemme know if u are...thnx a lot...ciao!!!
ReplyDeleteCongratulations for leaving this cult of madness and joining humanity.
ReplyDeleteThere seems to be an incipient skepticism about the veracity and/or genuineness of Liberated brewing among some Jihad Watch readers. Even one JW reader, "Wellington", who has been a loyal supporter for years from my experience of reading JW comments, has expressed some tentative concern.
ReplyDeleteAnother reader at JW, "Jan", I do not know as well, but he or she articulates reasonably some valid questions.
After quoting Liberated One --
''... when I was exposed to books such as Understanding Muhammad, The Truth about Muhammad, The Cult of the Moon God, Why I am not a Muslim and several other similar books.''
"Jan" then writes:
The questions in my mind are; when and how was 'Shakila', living in such a devout islamic family and society, exposed to these books ? How did she find out about them ? Who, if anyone, introduced her to them ? And, if someone did, surely she cannot be as alone in her apostacy as she claims ? Also, she clearly has access to a computer, and is confident enough this access won't be compromised/discovered by her family, who, if they are as devout as she says would surely either not allow her near a computer, or would rigorously censor her exposure to the internet.
One of the most evil aspects of islam is the total willingness to lie in order to advance the cause - thus rendering problematic what any muslim, or one purporting to be an apostate, says, and therefore, unfortunately, making any non-muslim suspicious.
Notwithstanding the benefit of the doubt we may wish to extend to Liberated, one wonders if there is a way Liberated can be a little more specific about how she managed -- and continues to manage -- to have the relative freedom she seems to have had and continues to have to read books that one would think would be Verboten in her society and in her family, and to access the Internet in such ways that would seem difficult in a society where governments censor the Internet and where family, friends and neighbors are ever on guard for suspicious activity.
If Liberated lives with her family, how does she get away with the anti-Islamic surfing she evidently engages in? If she does not live with her family, how is it that her family, being such staunch traditionalists, just allow a grown daughter of 35 to live alone? Isn't it against Islamic culture and Islamic law for women to be alone without a male guardian who is a family member?
Perhaps these kinds of questions can be specifically addressed by Liberated, without her divulging concrete details that might jeopardize her situation.
And we can't for that blog post
ReplyDeleteShakila,
ReplyDeleteHere is an excellent website that you may or may not know about ....
www.ProphetOfDoom.Net
Be Safe!
Dear Shakila,
ReplyDeleteIt takes great courage to do what you have done and I admire that. Your path will not be an easy one. Keep in mind that you are at the beginning of your journey, not at the end or in the middle. Just look at David Horowitz's journey from Communism to Conservatism - it's taken him 20+ years - but for him and many others, it's worth it!
I also can understand your anger and frustration. It comes from finally realizing that you've been misled all your life. What a waste of time and spirit, right?
I once viewed a video of a rabbi where he discussed anger, rage and resentment and what he said really stuck with me. Maybe it will resonate with you as well. He said that anger is a natural human emotion. It comes upon you quickly. when it does, just say to yourself regarding the person that has made you angry "What a silly or insensitive thing to do. That person is just not thinking clearly". And the anger will pass.
Rage is an anger that lingers and grows in your heart and mind. When you feel yourself raging against someone or something, say to yourself, "I really feel very sorry for them. They deserve only my pity". It's really hard to rage against someone when you're pitying them at the same time. And the rage will melt away.
Resentment is the worst. When you harbor resentment, you let someone that has done you harm live in your head and in your heart rent-free. When you think of it this way, it seems like a very silly thing to do, doesn't it? Banish them from your heart and mind. They have no right to be there anyway. Just a suggestion. It works for me!
Regarding your family and friends - do not share your exit from Islam with ANYONE. Your safety must come first, not their feelings or honor or anything else. I would suggest that you begin working on an exit plan, just in case someone "outs" you. Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer would be able to advise you in more detail than I would. Be a girl scout - always prepared!
To the author of this blog: Please take the time to read the Christian Bible, and you will discover a loving God who sent His Son to die for your sins. If you accept Him as your Savior, you will have a friend who sticks closer than a brother. He will help you in this trial, and you will never feel lonely again. He is nothing like Allah, but instead loves you unconditionally. God bless you for your boldness to speak out against Islam.
ReplyDeleteBible thumpers just can't stop pushing their own retarded "judeo-christian" version of "dawa" everywhere, it seems.
ReplyDeleteAs if sane rational people need even more evidence that organized religion is a mass psychosis ...
"As if sane rational people need even more evidence that organized religion is a mass psychosis ... "
ReplyDeleteWould "organized religion" include Islam?
skouti,
ReplyDeletePlease see the previous thread "More background..." for my latest responses to you. Some of us have decided not to address you further because of your refusal to address our questions and concerns.
SF
ReplyDeleteIslam especially. It's the worst of them all.
My son has been dating a Muslim girl for two years now- they are in love. She is not very devout, and I care for her very much. I'd like to talk to her about Christ, but I'm not sure how to approach it with her.
ReplyDeleteGacy, if you can get her to read the book "Once an Arafat man" written by a former PLO sniper, that'd be a good start.
ReplyDeleteGreenforest, good idea to ignore skouti! He appears to be just another mohamedan in disguise, but some of us here already spotted the snake! It seems he is not here to discuss openly but to utter deceit and stir up strife.
ReplyDeleteSkouti is afraid that someone might jeopardize his place in Ole' Mo's Worship-the-Penis-Club, and Muslim men just can't have that. Mohammad assured Muslim men that the world was their whore house and gal's like Liberated are interfering with those rights by not going along with the program. Apparently, that is all Robert's fault.
ReplyDeleteOne of the big differences between Christianity and Islam, (that all those who quake with fear as they tell you the former is just a big fairytale in the sky - every knee will bend folks,) is that as a Christian woman I am entitled to my sexuality. I may do God's will and keep it safe for only my spouse or I may do something else if I choose, but it is my will, not some horny man's that rules over it. And that is a blessing, not an oppressive act.
"as a Christian woman I am entitled to my sexuality"
ReplyDeleteYou know how obessessed these christians are about sex, LOL
Yeah, and the most porn-addicted country in the world is ... Pakistan !
ReplyDeletePaki wankers ! LOL
Looks like this joke blog is going to run and run. Firstly norway massacre linked robert spencer has to come out and deny he is this blogger. Maybe its his side kick plastic pam geller? But then it gets better you get jerk in chief ali sina coming to spencers defence. You cant make this stuff up, actually you probably can.
ReplyDeleteOntop of that you have all the bible thumpers adding their 2p worth.
How does it feel to live a lie, blogger?
Hows things with the family, you have to lie to them too? You broke the bond.
Now you will wonder deaf, dumb and blind spiritually.
Hey Kafir,
ReplyDeleteHappy New Year to you. I wonder whether it's the Christians who are obsessed:
http://bikyamasr.com/52127/kenyan-gay-men-become-sex-slaves-in-arab-gulf/
:D
Enjoy!
good points Anj. this so called blogger rates herself as intelligent.....you have to feel sorry for any religion she shacks up with
ReplyDeletefor kafir:
just for you - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7D_t2Udm78
Brilliant :)
"You know how obessessed these christians are about sex"
ReplyDeleteYes, that's right, Mr. Penis Club. Obsessed enough to know my rights to not have it as much as to have it. But are you sure you want to go with that one? Marrying off your girls in 2nd grade and using infants to masturbate with really kind of blows your credibility, doesn't it.
No doubt kafir since these creatures revere the false prophet Muhammad a child molesting monster that married a 6 year old Child and then raped the child at the age of 9. What kind of sub-human scum can revere such a piece of garbage?
ReplyDeleteboo,
ReplyDeletestay classy as a HATER.......sure you could spencer's creation a trick or two :)
just for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7D_t2Udm78
enjoy
Miss Liberated,
ReplyDeleteGirlfriend I am so sorry you had to live with morons like the ones surfacing today. In my Christian household growing up my dad and brothers watched out for me, supported and encouraged me and valued my opinions. They also would have annihilated any guy who tried to hurt me and it has always been thus.
As to intelligence, Skouter is losing the argument so now he questions your intelligence. It is the height of intelligence to disconnect from idiots, especially the ones who can't stop playing with themselves long enough to take a good long look at the reality of the world and the rights of all others who live in it. He's hoping you're not intelligent so you will go back in the bag and he can prey on you whenever he's feeling a little frisky.
Girlfriend, get yourself a Ruger SR9 and get trained on how to use it. It's nice and comfy in my hand and makes shooting a lot easier than with the .40 my instructor tried to get me to buy. (It was just too big.) But it is a very powerful weapon in the hands of a trained and enlightened gal, such as yourself, especially with some hollow point bullets. That way if the likes of Skouter ever come prowling around your way you can turn him from a rooster into a submissive hen quick as you can say Al Qaradawi and then he'll have to go sit in the back of the mosque with all the other Muslimas. ; )
Ah Skouter, did you get your widdle feewings hurt? Stay insecure, as the majority of Muslim men are.
ReplyDelete'Gotta go do some work. I'll catch your act later. ; )
Boo, stop it, sides are splitting from your mad suggestion about Spencers creation gettin a gun.......hello girlfriend.......she is not in a backward ass trailer park in hicksville, USA.
ReplyDeleteActually, maybe the Mad One should get a gun so she can do the honours (she talks about topping herself) so that is one way to go. Alternatively she could get some tips from Anders Brevik .......you know from one right wing loon to another :)
skouti, do you think the monster Muhammad let his child bride hold onto her dolls, for comfort, as the raped her? Can you think of any other well know and respected man who married and had sex with children?
ReplyDeleteSteve,
ReplyDeleteGlad to have you out of your closet
Stay classy as a HATER
@Steve
ReplyDeleteChristianity of today is mixed in the homosexual, pagan nature of the Roman Empire. I guess you can thank Constantine for that!
You got it skouti anyone who hates child molesters "is" classy and anyone who doesn't is sub-human garbage. Isn't that correct skouti?
ReplyDeleteAnd Slave of Allah/Satan Christianity has nothing to do with me so, shove it.
By the way skouti you never answered. Do you think the monster Muhammad let his 9 year old bride hold onto her doll as he had sex with her? Common sense tells that it would have been very painfull for the child and the dolls may have been soothing. What do you think, skouti, doll or no doll?
ReplyDeleteI am reposting this from another thread:
ReplyDeleteskouti, have you read the kkkoran, ahadith and sira in English?
If you have and you can still defend islam, then you are the worst kind of HATER.
Do you believe that mohammed (pigshit be upon him) was the "model man", whose behavior is to be emulated FOR ALL TIME? That means that you agree that pedophilia, rape, murder, plunder, looting, thievery, genocide, and all the other evils that little mo, "allah's" butt-buddy sock puppet, perpetrated upon others is sacred behavior foe muslims.
Oh, that's right, I forgot, you don't answer questions that might tend to incriminate you.
From j_not_a @ JW:
"...they [muslims, ed.] are increasingly realizing that infidels are reading their so called holy texts and that knowledgable infidels and ex muslims are disseminating the truth about taqiyya, kitman, abrogation and the disgusting, perverted, filthy murderous life of their profit moohamhead and there is no legitimate defence for the abominations of his behaviour and of their so called religion. We the people are on to them big time largely in thanks to the internet and there is nothing the muzlums can do to stop this. They know the jig is up so to speak and they are backed into the corner with no way out. So they lash out with indignant accusations of bigotry, racism, ad nausem because there is no refuting the truth of the sickening reality of the demon worshipping filth of their belief system."
Anyway, it's clear that you're an intellectual lightweight. I notice that you can't take the heat at JihadWatch and never stick around for long. Too tough for you minimal argumentative skills?
To my fellow warriors against islam: time to cut this troll loose. He has nothing of substance to say and we are just swatting at him as we would at an annoying gnat. He adds nothing to a genuine debate about the merits of this case; why continue to bother?
PROUD TO BE A HATER OF iSLAM.
islam will submit to Enlightened Western Civilization. Make no mistake.
After skouti's non-response, I posted this:
The troll is just that, folks. Not worth your time.
He won't answer because he can't without giving away his true agenda.
Let's spend our time on the TRUTH, not pointless, low-intellect games. This guy can't handle the heat so he constantly deflects and projects. You can't debate a mohammedan because they just don't have the mental capacity. This troll is no different.
To Boo LaRue:
Damn, girl, I like the way you think. I know some great Infidel womenfolk exactly like you! You're gonna rule the world that slugs like these mohammedan trolls can only crawl around on their slimy bellies!
Funny, the trolls think that:
ReplyDelete1.) They can deflect blame from the evil, disgusting cult of islam by denigrating Christianity. Compare and contrast Jesus' life with that of mahound.
2.) It's somehow an insult to be called a "hater" of islam. It's no more an insult than to be called a hater of Nazism. I am proud to hate both, as they are despicable, vile ideologies.
Let's try to use this forum from now on to encourage Liberated and to post information for her benefit and enlightenment, not to simply bait, feed, catch-and-release the trolls.
You hate the biggest Monotheistic religion on earth, ISLAM! We also have more converts than any other religion on this earth.
ReplyDeleteCHRISTIANITY has 3+ gods, Father, son, holy spirit, and Virgin Mary
Nazism - One Race Aryans
Islam - Every Race on earth
We are not going anywhere
Please name any proof of Prophet Muhammad (PEACE BE UPON HIM) did anything indecent to Aisha. Please believe I can show you hundreds of Catholic priests who molested little boys and almost made the Catholic church go bankrupt due to lawsuit settlements.
ReplyDeleteYup, bet ol boo could tell ya all a thing or two about those kiddy fiddling Christian priests..........nice :)
ReplyDeleteI guess, indecent, is in the eye of the beholder, isn't it moslem? Obviously a filthy sick in the head 53 year old man having sex with his 9 year old bride isn't indecent to you. Is it? Well, is it, moslem?
ReplyDeleteAnd those Catholic Priests are also sub-human garbage, and guess what, moslem, they're not revered, are they? But because the pedophile prophet has warped your mind so utterly you obviously can't differentiate between acceptable behavior and despicable behavior. Yup, you're moslem.
Most reliable Hadiths Sahih Bukhari
Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).
Sahih Bukhari 7:62:88
Angelo, you wrorte "No one is more tolerant of an atheist."
ReplyDeleteThis is not entirely ture. Some atheists are even more bigotted and intolerant than religionists. Hitler, Stalin and Mao are good examples. Even in our own time many intellectuals who have impressed people with their criticism of God and religion show the same kind of intolerace that people of faith do.
This has led me to believe that God is not the problem. The problem is it with us and not out of us. We have to be more tolerant of views we don't agree with and not try to change those who don't agree with us.
And by the way Slave of Allah/Shaitan for what it's worth take out the identifier “monotheism” and your death cult comes up second. Doesn’t it? And keep this in mind, moslem there are over 4 billion kuffar, and growing at a faster rate than your death cult. Put that in your hookah.
ReplyDeleteSteve, not only does Sahih Bukhari 7.62.88 give slave of allah the proof he asked for, but the quran says mohamed's sick pattern of behavior is to be emulated:
ReplyDeleteSurat Al-'Ahzab [verse 21] - There has certainly been for you in the messenger of allah an excellent pattern for anyone whose hope is in allah and the last day.
Yup, TTFJ, we know that, and they know that, and millions more people everyday are learning who this monster Muhammad really was.
ReplyDeleteDear Ali Sina,
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, thanks for coming here and corroborating Liberated's story. Thanks for all your work over the years in opposing Islam and defending freedom.
You wrote to a Muslim commenter above:
"I disagree with those who say Muhammad did not exist. He existed and was very real. Anyone who claims Muhammad did not exist has not read the Sira."
I've read the Sira (Alfred Guillaume's translation of Ibn Ishaq's "Sirat Rasul Allah" by Oxford Press) and I'm also familiar with some of the evidence questioning Muhammad's existence, such as will be discussed in Robert's forthcoming book. I think that it's possible that Muhammad did not exist as described in the Sira and that he is a post hoc confabulation. Some scholars who have investigated this question closely have also come to the conclusion that the Muhammad of this pious Islamic myth/legend probably did not exist.
"It is impossible to fabricate that story. Impossible! Muhammad existed and we know every detail of his life. We can know him so well that I could actually psychoanalyze him just by reading his biography."
I disagree; the existence of a real historical Muhammad is in doubt, the Muslim sources are ridiculously pious and partisan, and the fact that you can "psychoanalyze" him based on putative "biographical" information does not establish that he really existed. One can psychoanalyze a fictional character based on fictional or mythological personages (see Oedipus, Electra, etc., which did not exist).
You wrote:
"Some atheists are even more bigotted and intolerant than religionists. Hitler, Stalin and Mao are good examples. Even in our own time many intellectuals who have impressed people with their criticism of God and religion show the same kind of intolerace that people of faith do."
First, Hitler was not an atheist. Second, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm not aware of any atheist "intellectuals" today who have criticized God and religion who advocate that ex-atheists or critics of atheism should be killed, or that adulterers and homosexuals should be killed, or that atheist women who marry non-atheists should be killed, or that "witches" should be killed. While there are some atheists who are intolerant, there really isn't a version of atheism today that is as bad as the revived (and reviving) form of Islam we see today.
The problem, of course, is not theism per se or atheism per se, but rather the particular ideologies in question.
"This has led me to believe that God is not the problem. The problem is it with us and not out of us."
I agree.
"We have to be more tolerant of views we don't agree with and not try to change those who don't agree with us."
I agree within limits. Obviously, we aren't tolerant of harsh sharia and militant jihad.
Welcome to Kufrland, sanctuary from the religion of peace (sic).
ReplyDeleteThank you for another excellent post. I found this very illuminating:
ReplyDelete"We were taught a whitewashed version of Mohammed’s biography which depicted him as a saint, a kind hearted and loving prophet of God who wanted a Utopian society where everyone believed in one God. He was a poor orphan who lost his mother at the age of 6 and then was brought up by his grandfather and uncle, then married a woman 15 years older than him. He defended this people from the enemy and the wars that he fought were only defensive."
This helps me to understand why so many decent people call themselves Muslim.
Like Fabio I appreciate hearing the story of an intelligent Muslim who has gone beyond the fairy tale version and discovered the facts about Islam. I understand the brainwashing involved and the sense of betrayal and fear of loss of identity you are feeling. That will pass.
ReplyDeleteYears ago I read that a common emotion shared by people coming out of a cult is deep anger that they were deceived for so long. I think the anger you feel is normal, and I also think the intensity of the anger will pass and be replaced by gratitude that you are no longer in that cult and compassion for those who are.
ReplyDeleteI think you are angry because of the time you have een fooled and blind, but don't be, because when a blind man suddenly recovers his vision, he must not cry for the time he was in darkness but to be Happy for the things he can see now... So be blessed, and i will have you in my prayers, hoping that the love of Jesus can substitute that hate for love, as Paul said in this verse:
ReplyDelete1 Timothy 1:13 Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief. 14 The grace of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus.
15 Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst. 16 But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. 17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
to skouti and all the others slaves of allah:
ReplyDeleteI really don't understand why all commenters here are polite towards your murderous threats and islamonazi propaganda and debating with you. For me, I will gladly cut your throats and feed you to the pigs. All are you trying to do is:
1. discourage the truth to be told about cruelty of islam
2. scare Liberated and eventualy make her revert or at least make her silent.
3. Try to find out her identity so you can post it on one of the many masturbatory jihadi sites.
The sense of terror that many people are living through in islamic countries is real. You boasted that there are many people converting to islam than the other way. LIE - because the ones leaving islam are risking their lives (and you little fucks agree with this) 99% of them are going underground afterwards - and the converts to islam are usually stupid left-wing rags or deluded single women who will still live in the West all of them posting their garbage on Youtube. I don't hear about converts to islam moving to Afghanistan.
I met a girl in Morocco once, and she confirmed to me the insanity and complexes of the muslim men. She was deeply religious though and even if she "married" me for several weeks, I did not bring the subject of her religion at all. But I could see how tormented and unhappy she was. She left crying when I departed, I guess I was the first man in her life who treated her with respect.
Liberated, stay strong. Get out of there seeing that you have powerfull friends and leave everyone behind - you're mature enough to cope alone, family cannot help you. This is why this dirtbag skouti is keep insisting that you speak with your parents, he hope the worst for you will happen.
skouti - again - I will gladly exterminate you for what you're trying to do, killing an intelligent human being trying to escape islam hell. It's none of your business, you can go smell the farts of other men at the local mosque as many times you want. Take the slave with you, too.
Looking at the writing by the so-called Shakila, it does not appear have come from someone living inside a religious Islamic family. It is appears to be a propaganda-oriented story on purpose.
ReplyDeleteEven if we take the story on face value, why is she so worried about getting disowned? It does not add up. She should go out and just get lost and enjoy her life. But then, how will the story continue? This is pure and baseless Satanic drama.
Najam, I don't know how you can lie like you do. Perhaps you believe you are an amazing magician with super powers to convince us that we are not seeing what is plainly in front of our faces. But rather than your words I am more convinced by the actions of your fellow Muslims, especially the ones who scream Allahu Akbar while they are perpetrating some crime against humanity. Nidal Hassan comes to mind.
ReplyDeleteI think islam is the "beast" in The Book of Revelation. The antichrist, who is and was a persecutor of Christians will be of the old Roman Empire and a sexual pervert will give power to the beast. I commend Miss Liberated, she has a brain. islam and gangs operate the same way. So it is not rocket science to figure out what it is.(if it looks like a monkey and makes a noise like a monkey,it must be a monkey)But if you have been eating poo all your life and never tasted bananna pudding you may think it is good. Bless you Miss Liberated. I will pray for you.
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