Saturday, December 24, 2011

This Is What Islam Does to You

I was born in a very typical Sunni Muslim household, not very conservative like the Arabs, but nevertheless religious enough. I was born in Karachi, Pakistan to a very respectable Mohajjir family (mohajjirs are immigrants from India from the time of the partition in 1947). I moved to another Muslim country with my parents when I was just 10 years old and still live there.

I really wish there were a way I could freely live in a free society where I could follow the religion that I want without any compulsion. So far, I am not really sure what I am. I just know that I am not an atheist, because I do believe in a God, but that God cannot be the Allah of Mohammed. God is kind and merciful, not evil, cruel, mean and sadistic, as is Allah.

Have you ever read the Quran in English? I never did, I mean all my life I just recited the Quran in Arabic without understanding a single word until August of this year, when I purchased a copy of the English Quran and read the translation for the first time. Previously I had read some parts of it in English, but never the whole thing. But this year in August I read it from cover to cover, and then also read other references on the internet. Then I finally reached the conclusion that this book is the most evil thing on the face of this earth. It teaches nothing else except hatred and violence. I can no longer be a part of a cult which subjugates its followers, making them mere blind puppets with no mind of their own.

During the course of last four months, I have done nothing else but read, read and read. I spend hours a day reading Ali Sina and watching videos of David Wood and others who are trying their best to expose Islam to the world. I read 23 Years by Ali Dashti. The best among them all is Ali Sina's Understanding Muhammad and of course Robert Spencer’s The Truth About Muhammad. These kind of books are banned here, but I managed to find Robert’s book on Ibook, so I purchased it and just finished reading it yesterday.

I don't know how to go about it. I mean, I want to remain anonymous, but at the same time I need help. I don't want to be killed just because I am brave enough to tell the truth. I am really in a terrible jam. I do not want to lose my life just because I do not believe in that evil religion anymore.

Last Sunday I went to the church here and attended the mass. Then I went to see the priest and asked him for help. He said that his hands were tied and he really could not do anything to help me, because when they had first gotten permission to built a church in this country, they had to agree to a few terms and conditions with the government here. One of them was not to convert anyone from Islam. He said if anyone finds out, the church would be closed and he would probably end up in jail.

The priest said he could not help me personally, but that I was more than welcome to attend the mass and sit quietly at the back. He said, “Do not talk to anyone or reveal who you are.” It is a good idea, but frankly, I am not sure if I want to do that every week, because last Sunday I saw quite a few police cars circling the church premises, and I am really scared. What if someone checks my ID or something? They would probably close down the church and put me in jail, and maybe even execute me. My life will be in danger if anyone finds out that I have left Islam.

I have a friend, a pretty young girl from Morocco who also lives here and works with me. She too has given up Islam recently but she is also very afraid of her life. This is what Islam does to you. When you are in it, your life is nothing but living in the fear of hell, and once you leave it, it is not less than hell because you are constantly scared to lose your life.

94 comments:

  1. Hang in there, You're braver than Soviet dissidents. I don't know if that means anything to you. But it means to me and those like me you are among humanities best.

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  2. you filthy traitor
    im muslim and even if i did not belive in islam, i would still stay muslim, it not about belief
    its fucking about loyalty to the muslim ummah
    personally i dont care about religion to me its more about the islamic ideology and loyalty

    fucking dimwit there is no way out for people like you, the only thing that awaits you is death

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  3. You seem Western educated, with your excellent English writing skills. Any possibility of hopping a plane to Europe or US and applying for asylum? Whatever your ultimate destination on hour spiritual journey, you have the right to believe as you wish. Live free or die!

    PS That priest was a real coward for not ministering to your spiritual needs, doubt Jesus would have chosen him as an aspostle.

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  4. Kai, you are the filthy one. Who do you think you are, attempting to force your barabaric tribal beliefs on others? Most of you little prissy Muslim men are very insecure about your sexuality, thus the need to dominate and humiliate rather than protect your women. American men are strong and like nothing more than a strong, independent mate on their life journey.

    Why are all the Muslim majority countries poor, barbaric, filthy cesspools. We will crush you and your dirty ummah of men in dresses.

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  5. I'm very sorry to hear about your situation. For your safety, I'm thinking it may be best to raise some money, and then see if you can't move and live in a country like the US with a low percentage of Muslims. You can then more freely attend churches with much less fear.
    I'm like you, in that I do believe in God, but don't quite agree with any single religion. I had few experiences that transcends reason and logic, that lets me know that divine beings do exist. I want to start talking and sharing these experiences next year, since I think others may benefit from them:
    http://www.betterbetterandbetter.com/

    I certainly want you to remain safe, and of course if necessary anonymous. I think what you have to share is powerful, and can have a profound impact. Many people only know the white-washed version of Islam. We need more brave people like yourself to help wake people up, and tell the whole truth about Islam.

    I know in the west, when people start mentioning the negatives about Islam, they get called racist, or simply ignorant, despite the valid points which are brought up. But, they can't make these accusations against ex-Muslims. This is why I think your testimony especially, can really make a difference.

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  6. did you read my post you retard, i said its not about beliefs its about ideology and loyalty
    believe in Jesus or Muhammad i don't care

    its about loyalty to Muslim Ummah and the Islamic Ideology

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  7. "believe in Jesus or Muhammad i don't care

    its about loyalty to Muslim Ummah and the Islamic Ideology"

    If you believe in Jesus, and believe in what he taught. You'll see that this is contrary to the Islamic Idealogy.

    To believe and be loyal to both viewpoints, is like saying I believe the world is round, but I'm also loyal to the idea that the world is flat.

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  8. Kai, my dear brother, there is an enormous difference between Muhammed and Jesus -- and one must care!

    Liberated: you are in my prayers, and please know that you will receive abundant graces from attending Mass, even in back, even anonymously -- for God knows you by name and He loves you passionately. I would be happy to correspond with you, for I write on this topic extensively. Your name is well-chosen, and we need to find help for you. Blessings in the new year, friend.

    http://feminine-genius.typepad.com/morning_star/

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  9. i don't believe in Jesus
    what i was trying to say is believe in what you want, that's not my problem but becoming non-Muslim and rejecting Islamic ideology will get you hurt because you betrayed the Muslim Ummah

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  10. Dear friend, I greatly appreciated your testimony. You are absolutely correct that "the Koran is the most evil thing on the face of this earth." You are brave and truth stands on its own authority. The Bible IS the only Word of God on earth. Jesus Himself is your answer. Christianity has many (regrettable) expressions. I was Roman Catholic but I was raised very strictly. My father had forbidden us to have the Bible in our hands. To make a long story short, you will not find the answers you are looking for in the Roman Catholic church per say. What I mean is that the Catholic church has changed from its beginnings 2000 years ago. All the answers you will need to find are found in the Bible - the same Bible that the Catholic church uses. Start reading in the New Testament where you see Matthew, Mark, Luke & John, etc... Then read them again. In these you will find the words of Jesus where He speaks. When you read, ask the one true God to open your eyes regarding the truth about Himself. Through His Word HE WILL REVEAL HIMSELF. Be prepared for a most wonderful experience. Jesus has come to bring new life in the hearts of people. As you read, and when God will speak to you, surrender your heart and mind to God and He will give you new life. Read especially "John 3:1-16." Furthermore there are many false manifestations of "Christianity." If you see the following, "Jehovah's Witnesses, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (also known as Mormons), Seventh Day Adventists), DO NOT GO TO THEM!! They are CULTS and twist the truth. Always refer to the Bible alone and always keep an open mind to head the truth from God in His Word only. I live in Canada, where we see very little persecution or opposition to Christianity. God has placed you in a country where Christians are opposed and rejected. The fact is, once you have true life in Jesus, death does not terminate you. For someone who trusts in Jesus, when the body dies, but the spirit or the soul of the person goes directly to God. So you must not fear death, if it comes to this point. Read 2 Corinthians 5:8. So my friend, do read the New Testament, especially the first four books: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Don't read the Old Testament just yet. If you are curious, please read Genesis in the first 10 to 15 chapters. In Genesis you will see the truth about Abraham, Noah etc... Also in the Old Testament, you may want to read Psalms and Proverbs. In order to find a good church, you may ask the local priest about where you can find an Evangelical Church. Sometimes, this church will have the name of "Baptist" for example. Look for http://www.biblegateway.com/ in order to read the Bible online. If you wish to contact me, you can reach me at renelsa@ymail.com My name is Rene and I am a man that pastors a church here in Canada. Or rhenix644@gmail.com

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  11. "i don't believe in Jesus
    what i was trying to say is believe in what you want, that's not my problem but becoming non-Muslim and rejecting Islamic ideology will get you hurt because you betrayed the Muslim Ummah"

    How can a person "believe in what you want" if this is considered "betrayal" by Muslims? If a person doesn't agree with me, that's okay. I don't consider this an offense or betrayal. It's unfortunate that Muslims don't have this same attitude.

    My brother was once a Christian. But he after much exploration, and examining other evidences, he didn't agree with everything the church taught. So he disagreed with some things. This didn't make it him traitor.

    Should a child who no longer believes in Santa Clause, be called a traitor, an apostate, and be put to death?

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  12. I wish you well. Christianity at its base gives hope, freedom and love.

    However I am of the opinion that muscular Christianity is needed to combat these Islamic dregs.

    If it means killing them in self defence then so be it.

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  13. To kai

    To quote you directly, "i said its not about beliefs its about ideology and loyalty" and "its about loyalty to Muslim Ummah and the Islamic Ideology".

    Which is admitting that you are a cogwheel in a totalitarian machinery, a robotic militant of skull-numbing totalitarian uniformity, imposing itself by fear and intimidation. You are a non-entity as a human being, a non-individual crawling on your hands and knees, subdued by the same fear you want to instill in others. An effing coward, in other words.

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  14. ok i will make it simpler for you she/he can believe in what ever religion they want to believe in

    but declaring them self a apostate and going against Islamic ideology makes them a traitor

    do you understand what i am saying?
    she/he should have quietly followed whatever religion she/he wanted to follow

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  15. I sincerely hope the very best for you.

    If you ever get on an airplane into europe, pick finland sweden or norway for first stop and say dont deny that you are muslim (they'll ask just be ambiguous).

    Its essentially a free ticket to welfare that you can use to buy your way into another country that is actually free.


    I can only imagine how much strenght this must take from you but i also hope you some day get a chance to live in a free country and educate others about the dangers of the cult.

    Your situation however also in itself gives me hope,
    that there truly are muslims that are human in their feelings and thoughts, that when the conflict between west and islam comes we dont have to wipe everyone out,
    hopefully meaning thousands like you could perhaps one day live without being threatened with death anywhere.

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  16. Dear mr Kai
    Your muslim ummah can go and whistle as far as I'm concerned. The whole outlook of islam is backward and primitive. You have no place in a civilised society. That lady is extremely brave for what she is doing. Your book and your false prophet are a curse upon decent folks who only want to live in peace and worship whomsoever they choose. What other religion threatens it's members with death for daring to leave? What other so called religion wants to take over the world after slaughtering millions of innocent people to get it's own disgusting way? Only one that I know of; the one made up by a very sick individual.

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  17. This is some advice for a piece of Islamic scum called "kai".

    We in the Nationalist community that composes millions upon millions of people in the west and is a steadily growing organisation(s) are fully aware of who you are and what you are.

    Your crimes against our people and our culture and religion(s) are being recorded on a daily basis and when the time comes you will pay the price.

    You may well think that you are protected by the current multicultural dogma and laws against hate crime. However, justice in the Christian sense does involve a certain element of an eye for an eye.

    We are righteously angry and getting fed up with your cult that claims to be a religion. It would seem that the only thing you cretins recognise is violence.

    Well, you shall have it in abundance and you shall be thrown out of our societies that you despise so much.

    You asked for it.

    Now you shall get it; without mercy.

    Now piss off before it happens you gutless Mohammedan piece snot.

    Happy New Year.

    You son of a camel.

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  18. To Stupid Kai:
    The Muslim Ummah? You mean this one:
    "O nation whose ignorance makes the nations of the world laugh!"
    Do you believe in Dragons moron? I hope you can read arabic...
    http://crossmuslims.blogspot.com/2011/08/torments-of-grave-arabic.html

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  19. @ kai, thanks for confirming that politics and ideology (policies of how to treat others) trumphs religion (how one relates to the spirit world and gets into heavan)in Islam. The more you guys are honest, the quicker Islam will lose it's status in the west as a religion and will be seem for what it is. A totalitarian political ideology. The day is coming soon that Islam will be driven out of the west. And when the west wakes up to the reality of Political Islam,, we will put our inovation and attention towards alternative engergies,,, and Islam in the Middle east will die out because the oil money will be gone,,, and Msulims will be left in a 7th century economy to go with their 7th centuray mindset (ideology).

    Liberated: Many will be praying for you. May the Lord be with you always.

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  20. if Islam is true or not i do not care
    the main thing is the ideology and the ummah

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  21. "ok i will make it simpler for you she/he can believe in what ever religion they want to believe in

    but declaring them self a apostate and going against Islamic ideology makes them a traitor

    do you understand what i am saying?"

    I understand completely.

    Some of my family members don't or no longer agree with all of my views. I don't consider them traitors, and apostates, deserving of death. I still love them, and consider them family.

    It's unfortunate that Islam doesn't teach this same view.

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  22. kai56, are you saying that Islam IS a religion--or that Islam HAS a religion?

    BTW--Merry Christmas!

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  23. islam is the religion and the main parts are the ideology and the muslim ummah

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  24. Look at this pages I´m sure you will find some help.
    http://muslimjourneytohope.com/
    http://www.answeringmuslims.com/
    God bless you and merry christmas to you.

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  25. \\if Islam is true or not i do not care
    the main thing is the ideology and the ummah\\

    kai, why do you give your loyalty to something that you think may be false?

    Could it be because of the love and openness to others you revealed in the language you used in your first post here?

    Or are you saying that truth does not actually matter to you--just don't quit the club?

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  26. You are brave.

    Ignore "Kai", he is a coward, with the mind of a child. He is ignorant and lacks your ability to see the wonder of individual freedom. He is brainwashed by islam.

    We would pity Kai and all muslims like him except for the fact that they compensate for their ignorance and cowardice by projecting supremacy and fear.

    I understand that you are in a jam. But remember, that being a free individual is about making your own choices. And so far the choices you are making are good. Continue to trust your instincts as whether what you see and hear is true, and to distinguish what is good for you from what is bad for you.

    Take care, and best wishes

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  27. For Kai she is a traitor not just for leaving Islam, but for exposing the vile ideology for what it is.

    Muslims in Islam are prisoners and prison wardens at the same time. A chain gang.

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  28. yh im saying the second point
    truth does not matter
    you can not just quit the ideology or the ummah
    if you really do want to quit it, you should kill your self then you will be free

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  29. "you can not just quit the ideology or the ummah
    if you really do want to quit it, you should kill your self then you will be free."

    Since Islam teaches that apostates are to be executed, this is a sad truth, especially for Muslim children born into the religion and who never had a choice to make up their own mind.

    If more people knew the truth about Islam, more measures would probably be taken to make it safer for people to leave this ideology safely and with their life.

    May all you brave souls continue to help and wake up the masses, by speaking the total truth about this ideology.

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  30. To Liberated :

    You are very brave. Since you believe there is a God, ask Him to lead you to some true Christians. I believe you need to be in a community of people who can support you and help you. Even if you are not sure yet what you believe, if they are true Christians they will love you, respect you, offer what they have but will not force their beliefs on you.

    This may require leaving your country as others have said. However I am sure there are also underground Christians in your country. You can ask God for help with deciding what to do (stay or leave). He is the one who is revealing the truth to you, and He will show you what to do if you ask, because He is kind and merciful. If you can get a hold of a Bible, begin reading it - starting with the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John in the New Testament, as my brother Rene has also said, because these tell the message about Jesus.

    God bless you. I am praying for you.

    If you can come to Canada, we can try to help you if you are in our part of the country (it is a very large country).

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  31. So, are you a coward, Kai?
    Coward, because you remain loyal, even if you disbelieve, only out of fear of the ummah?

    Or is it a bit different, and you are loyal with umma, because you really cherish the "ideology", in other words, you like islam (and if strippped of the religious nonsense, you like it even more?

    If so, tell me, what exactly do you like about islam? Thanks for the answer.

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  32. i am loyal to the Ummah and i accept the Ideology

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  33. Hello,

    I was moved by your article.The best thing is to stay quiet,your life is worth saving.

    If Christianity is true and I think it is then in the future,according to JOEL RICHARDSON:

    1.Islam will win for a while.

    2.A man saying he is the MAHDI will come,he is the ANTICHRIST.

    2.A second man saying he is JESUS,but he is NOT,will come.He will say Islam is true,and will do miracles.

    3.The book of REVELATION talks of the Antichrist and a FALSE prophet.

    Also the MAHDI and the ISLAMIC JESUS will fight against AL-MASIH AD-DAJJAL(the false Messiah,the Islamic Antichrist,who will claim to be GOD and JESUS the MESSIAH.

    To find out the details go to:

    http://www.antisharia.com/2011/12/09/a-joel-richardson-interviewwhere-he-gives-some-reasons-why-the-antichrist-will-be-a-muslimthe-mahdi/

    SO?

    In the future WE IN THE WEST will be in your situation.

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  34. I forgot to add that in Islamic theology the MAHDI and the ISLAMIC JESUS,who will be the ANTICHRIST and the FALSE prophet for us,will have a great battle with the DAJJAL,who for us the REAL JESUS

    As you can see the Muslims are being set up,they will think the real Antichrist is the GOOD guy.

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  35. I wanna read the Quran soon, because I know I will find bucket loades of information to use against Islam as you did. The Quran is a disgusting piece of literature; it can be compared to Hitler's journal.
    You should come to the USA if you want religious freedom!

    And could all the ignorant, selfish, vile Muslims please leave the discussion. And where is all that Muslim love that is "supposed" to be in the Quran? Not seeing it.

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  36. kai: ok, thanks for the answer,
    So you think, that it is a good plan to conspire to conquer the world from within, in a few generations.
    Does it mean, you likr the future as promised by islam?

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  37. @minoria "In the future WE IN THE WEST will be in your situation."

    I think this is a good point, and very real possibility. Right now, I think the majority of the West, only knows about the politically correct white-washed version of Islam, talked about in the media, libraries, schools, and even colleges.

    So when enough people knows about the full truth of Islam, there's a greater chance that counter-measures on massive scale, will naturally follow to prevent the reality that you speak of.

    Before solutions can even be discussed, people need to identify or even realize that there's a problem. So I think this is why it's so extremely important for people to keep speaking and letting everyone know the full truth of Islam.

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  38. Kai is probably just a troll, but if he is serious, then he's also self-contradictory in saying that he doesn't care about Islam as a religion but accepts Islamic ideology, for the ideology includes the religion, so Kai himself is thus disloyal to the Muslim Ummah and by his own twisted logic deserves to die as a traitor.

    But the logic is so ridiculous that I suspect Kai is merely a troll.

    Jeffery Hodges

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  39. Excellent point, Jeffery Hodges.

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  40. Thank you for your courage and insights:)

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  41. The writer of this blog, "Liberated One", speaks of Ali Sina in the highest terms:

    ...my friend, my savior and my mentor Ali Sina...

    While Ali Sina is doing fine work for the most part in doing his part to educate people about the pernicious nature of Islam, I must strongly disagree with his argument as he put forth, for example, in one article -- "The Problem is Islam, not Muslims".

    The problem is clearly both Islam and Muslims. Islam is just a body of ideas. To become dangerous to other people, it has to be put into action, by actual Muslims putting it into practice.

    And, unfortunately, as a few of us know, all too many Muslims are doing just that, while innumerable other Muslims more or less passively enable their wicked and deadly deeds.

    While there may exist some Muslims who are "Muslim-in-name-only" and would perhaps like to escape the Gulag Ummapelago, unfortunately by remaining Muslims, they continue to enable and facilitate their more fanatical brothers and sisters who are posing an increasingly deadly danger to the rest of us non-Muslims around the world.

    In addition, there is the thorny problem that even if we grant the existence of harmless Muslims, we cannot discern them with sufficient certitude -- due to the complexity of the numbers of Muslims spread out in a vast diaspora around the world, and due to the culture of taqiyya. Our priority has to be our own safety first, even if that means taking various actions over the coming decades (once we deconstruct the ridiculously fashionable construct of PC MC -- but that's another story) which may well result in various forms of "collateral damage" ranging from discomfort to abridgment of various rights, and even, tragically, worse necessities.

    The Hesperado

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  42. Hello Liberated,

    You obviously have the friendship and well-wishes of many people.

    I'm going to repeat my advice. Take it very slow. Your instincts were very good concerning the church. With the police checking IDs, it would be only a matter of time until you were picked up, most likely sooner than later.

    You have made at least one friend, the Moroccan girl, who knows your situation, and shares your predicament. This is both good and bad. It provides you with an ally, but it doubles your risk of exposure.

    Luckily, you are able to grow and learn online. Do not trust anyone with your identity. Take it slow, make plans for escaping, but give yourself plenty of time. It might be a good idea to maintain the Muslim friends you already have. Don't isolate yourself, even though you have to keep your beliefs secret. Avoid discussions except on a superficial level. You are not there to persuade other people. Your purpose is to survive and to find out enough to escape. You need friends, but they don't need to know your secret.

    I wish you the best. Keep doing what you're doing. Putting your life and thoughts on the internet is not only brave, but of great value. Above all, be careful and be smart. Maintain enough Muslim rituals so you don't call attention to yourself.

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  43. Kai is not necessarily self-contradictory. There were probably many Nazi fellow-travellers who didn't believe Hitler's Aryan race mumbo jumbo, but nevetheless went along with the Third Reich while it was the winning side.

    Similarly, many Muslims probably don't really believe all the crap in the koran, no more than an intelligent German would believe Mein Kampf, but nevertheless will support the ideology while it brings them advantages.

    Bin Laden said something about people choosing the strong horse rather than the weak one, and at the moment Islam is the strong horse and all the rest of the religions decrepit old nags.

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  44. Kai, however, expresses his sense of offense, as though an apostate has personally insulted him by leaving Islam even though he claims not to care about the religious aspects of Islam, though without the truth of divine revelation, Islam lacks all legitimacy, so why take offense?

    As for the other religions, Christianity, anyway, is growing rapidly in regions other than the West and is thus hardly a decrepit old nag.

    Islam looks like a strong horse these days because of its current militacy, but its inability to tolerate criticism, from either inside or outside the Ummah, implies that this horse's heart might suddenly give out.

    Jeffery Hodges

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  45. To "Liberated": Forget the Catholic, Orthodox and (most) Anglican churches. Their leaders either have no idea about the true nature of Islam, or are dhimmis themselves. Some conservative Anglicans have broken away from Cantebury to form more theologically orthodox congretations.

    Try evangelical or charismatic (Pentecostal) churches. They will support your and your budding faith far better.

    May God bless you and protect you.

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  46. To learn about Christianity, it's best to read the Bible for yourself. Choose a readable, modern translation. The Gospel of John is a good place to start because it is short and clear, and it summarizes everything well. Also, the Book of Acts is interesting, because it is the history of how Christianity began. I will be praying for you, my friend.

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  47. Dear Liberated:

    You are to be commended for your courage, intellectual honesty, and moral stance. I can do nothing for you but make some reading recommendations, such as some fiction or novels that may provide inspiration and moral models:

    I suggest you begin with “Anthem,” a short novelette by Ayn Rand. This was written in the 1930’s and does not deal with Islam per se, but with the kind of collectivist society that Islam would create if allowed to triumph. I am sure that, based on your posting here, you will identify immediately with the hero, who also must think and act in secret, lest he be burned at the stake. If you were able to read other e-books, you can read it here:

    http://www.amazon.com/Anthem-ebook/dp/B002RKSUYY/ref=sr_1_1_title_1_kin?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1324809448&sr=1-1

    From there, you may progress to her other novels, “The Fountainhead” and “Atlas Shrugged,” and her nonfiction work, all as e-books, such as:

    http://www.amazon.com/Objectivism-Philosophy-Rand-Library-ebook/dp/B002OSXDB4/ref=sr_1_1_title_1_kin?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1324809770&sr=1-1

    There is only one other novel that deals with the evils of Islam in a modern setting, “We Three Kings,” by Edward Cline. This novel was finished in 1980, before anyone in the West recognized the peril posed by Islam, and deals with the violent conflict between an American entrepreneur and a Saudi (Sunni) sheik over possession of a rare gold coin. It is the most popular e-book among the author’s many titles.

    http://www.amazon.com/Three-Kings-Merritt-Fury-ebook/dp/B003YXXKP2/ref=sr_1_1_title_0_main?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1324809996&sr=1-1

    Liberated: I won’t say that I will pray for your safety and well-being – I am an atheist – but my thoughts will be about you and your extraordinary dilemma. I will say that if there were a God or an Allah, he wouldn’t allow such individuals as you to live in fear. That he does, says a lot about God, whatever his name may be. Merry Christmas!

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  48. The word about Islam is getting out. There are people in the Tea Party movement in America who know how bad it is and are spreading the word. So hang in there. I admire your courage and honesty.

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  49. Liberated, I echo the comments of others, both of good wishes and to take care. I recommend that you maintain a Muslim charade, forgoing any signs of interest in any other religion or philosophy. Make careful plans to immigrate to the West, e.g., can you come to study? Then, when you get here, you can begin to speak your mind and search for what seems to be true. Good luck and, again, take care.

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  50. Just seen this link on "norway massacre" linked robert spencers site jihad watch. Well done blogger, he uses you as a tool. Is this one of those fake blogs???????? Like the syrian lesbian who went missing and there was almost a diplomatic incident between syria and the US. It turned out it was some US male redneck studying in scotland.
    If this is real then, is there a template out there somewhere about so called ex muslims stories. Its the same old tired rubbish.
    "I wasnt that religious and one day i had a road to damascus moment...blah blah blah".
    I doubt you were muslim in the first place. Being born one is no excuse or liking curries does'nt count. Your muslim parents are a disgrace for not teaching you the fundamentals and not guiding you to build upon that. Ignorance really must be bliss, now you find yourself sitting in a pew every sunday. How ironic.

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  51. It is problematic that both Islam and Christianity are triumphalist religions. Islam has always advocated the persecution and killing of non-believers both in scripture and action. Christianity is supremacist and has a history of oppression and forced conversions well into the 19th century. (e.g. Recall the Jewish ghetto in Rome (abolished in 1850) where Jews were forced to live, attend church and pay a head tax. Jewish children were routinely kidnapped and raised as Christian when parents refused to convert to Christianity).

    To state that the Bible is the ONLY word of G-d and that Jesus is the answer, is to deny the validity of your foundational religion. Jesus was a Jew, who, if alive today, would be found in a synagogue. This statement disrespects Jews, who gave you your savior, your Bible and the 10 Commandments. It also denigrates all other religions. (BTW, Islam is not a religion. It is a theo-political-legal-militaristic ideology).

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  52. anj,

    "I doubt you were muslim in the first place [...] Your muslim parents are a disgrace for not teaching you the fundamentals [...]"

    Sure, and you aren't really a Muslim, just someone trying to make Muslims look bad by posting your b.s. tirade against Liberated, right?

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  53. Liberated, You are an extremely brave person and I pray for your safety. If you truly wish to leave Islam and convert to Christianity you do not need a priest to do this. Any Christian can Baptize you by simply saying the words over you. "I Baptize you in the Name of Jesus Christ."

    God Bless you.

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  54. Dear Liberated,

    Congratulations on freeing yourself from Muhammad's death cult. You are very brave.

    You have to know something, though. Some of our Christian brothers here have given you bad advice. You should stick with the Catholic Church because it is the Church founded by Jesus Christ (Matthew 16:18). What Protestants say is the opposite of the truth: the Catholic Church is biblical, their little splinter groups are not.

    Please don't misunderstand. There some bad individuals in the Catholic Church, as there are in the Protestant churches, and as there are in every large group of human beings. Again, what matters is that the Catholic Church was founded by Jesus for all of humanity. Even though Catholics are imperfect as people, Catholic teachings are perfect indeed and guided by the power of the Holy Spirit. See what the Bible says about the Eucharist, divorce, salvation, or anything else, then compare Catholic and Protestant teachings. We are biblical, they are not.

    May Christ's peace be with you.

    To Rene:

    I don't know what the deal with your father was, but if you actually think the Catholic Church forbids people from reading the Bible, you are crazy. That is not just false, it's the opposite of the truth. You are committing a sin by telling people that.

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  55. To Kai:

    The "Ummah" deserves no loyalty, and in fact should not exist, because the whole concept is based on the lie that Muhammad was a prophet of God. You say that you are loyal to the "ideology" of the Ummah. That ideology is that Islam should rule the world. Since Islam is a lie, however, what you are saying is that a lie should rule the world while truth should be banished. That is an indecent idea. Anyone who says or thinks such a thing should burn in the hellfire, right alongside Muhammad.

    Assuming you are not a troll, you should just be silent because the more you say, the more ridiculous and contemptible you make yourself look (and by extension, all Muslims).

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  56. oh booohooohooo....at least have the "BALLS" to come out rather than bitchin n moanin on your own self serving blog......crack on and join the christians and see how fcuked up their religion is :)

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  57. \\To "Liberated": Forget the Catholic, Orthodox and (most) Anglican churches.\\

    Joseph, the Orthodox have been living under mahometan domination for centuries and know all about how mohametans act when they are in the majority.

    Read NEW MARTYRS OF THE TURKISH YOKE.

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  58. Hang in there wherever you are! We love you and support you. I can't imagine living under those conditions and pray that you will be able to live and come to America or another free country or that your country will change. Christ Jesus loves you and is there for you if you just ask in your heart.

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  59. \\yh im saying the second point
    truth does not matter
    you can not just quit the ideology or the ummah
    if you really do want to quit it, you should kill your self then you will be free\\

    Let me paraphrase what you said to see if I understand it:

    People should kill themselves if they leave something that could easily be a lie.

    Mahometanism may well be a lie, and you are willing to kill for what you think could well be false if people reject it.

    Is that right?

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  60. God bless you on your journey out of the darkness of Islam. I will keep you in my prayers, asking the one true living God to keep you safe and watch over you. He loves you so very much!

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  61. It may interest some readers to know that Ali Sina, whom Liberated One describes as "...my friend, my savior and my mentor Ali Sina..." and who helped her see the light out of Islam, is an atheist.

    The Hesperado

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  62. The Christians and some other people who have posted on this blog are very supportive. Ignore those who make hateful or confusing remarks. Keep focused on Jesus and ask Him to help you through. I'm another at times cranky white woman, but she is right on.

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  63. Liberated is right, except you can just accept Jesus in your heart and you are accepted.

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  64. True about Ali Sina, Hesperado, but it should also be noted that Ali Sina sometimes has written as if there is a God. But his view of "God," when he entertains it, is of course "spiritual" or mystical-sounding, rather than conventional, doctrinaire or formalized.

    Also, although Sina is a sort of atheist, he has frequently affirmed that he is not against religion, he is only against Islam because it crushes freedom. As you know he distinguishes very much between Islam and other religions. He does not believe that JC was God nor believe in Christianity, but Sina does speak of Christianity and JC as essentially benign.

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  65. Hi Liberated,

    Unfortunately, everyone here, including myself, sees fit to offer you advice.

    I see your situation as comparable to those people wishing to escape Communist countries, beginning in the 1940's. I ran into one of those stores:

    http://oneescape.com/home.html

    I'm sure there are many more. You will find a lot of specific information on what it takes to lead a secret life. You will also see what kinds of things people did to escape from the Communist countries which were simply open-air prisons.

    I would be happy to provide more references, but you can do the searches as well as I can.

    I got a lot of revelations reading the story I linked to. The Arab Spring is not comparable to the Prague Spring for which it was named. It is actually closer to the October Revolution in Russia, where the old order Czarist government was overthrown, but replaced by a weak government that was coopted by the Bolsheviks.

    Do not look to the Arab Spring to provide freedom. The countries will be taken over by the organized Islamists, just like the real Russian Revolution was taken over by Lenin and Trotsky.

    There will be a long period of increasing oppression in the Muslim countries. Just like for Communism in the Communist countries, the moth-eaten theology of Islam will become ever more obviously stupid and destructive as Muslims live under true Sharia. You can see the beginnings of this in Iran, where the young people can barely tolerate Islam, and the Islamic government must maintain itself through fraud and murder.

    The United States and Europe will be no help. Even in fighting Communism, the main contributions the United States made were to provide a model of freedom, and place of refuge for people fleeing Communism, and the Voice of America, which provided unbiased news. Every effort made by the US CIA or other government agencies to undermine the Communist governments got taken over by Communist stooges. The real revolutions had to come from the people themselves.

    The Muslim countries will get worse long before they get better. With the Islamists in charge, as people become disillusioned with Islam, the Islamists will enforce their totalitarian theology ever more viciously. It's all there in the history of Communism. Eventually, everyone will know what a sham Islam is; the whole tottering edifice will be held in place by dreary bureaucrats (read Imams) who want nothing so much as to keep their unearned position and privileges. As a group, there is probably no bunch of people so spectacularly unqualified as the Muslim Imams, and no group with comparable power and influence over large numbers of people.

    But, to get back to earth, keep a low profile, make your plans, and take your opportunity when it comes. Do not trust anyone you are not sure of. Klim Kalman, who wrote the history I referred you to, did not tell his sister of his plans to escape. He knew she would not be able to keep his secret.

    If you cannot keep your own secret, how would you expect someone else to keep your secret? The safest person to confide in is no one. Other people have as much of an urge to confide a secret as you do, but if they do, you will be the one dead, not them. Resist the temptation to tell anyone.

    My best wishes for your safety and continued growth. My warmest admiration to Robert Spencer for his efforts in saving people from Islam.

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  66. Dear Liberated,

    I read your post on the day we Christians in America celebrate the birth of our Savior, Jesus of Nazareth, the Messiah or the Anointed One. I hope you can find a time and place to inquire of him, to learn and, hopefully, to believe. He lives and makes himself known to those who diligently search for him. There are many religions and many variants on most of those religions in the world. Don't get discouraged, but continue to seek, study, pray and observe the Truth is out there for you to discover. I have done my own searching and found my own answers, so my testimony is heavily weighed with that faith and knowledge. I would happily share with you my testimony and faith in our Lord Jesus the Christ, but even then it would be needful for you to find and develop your own understanding and testimony in him. I strongly urge you to study the Holy Bible, but I would also include the Book of Mormon, as well. It is a second witness, a second testament of the Savior. It is the record of Ephraim prophesied in Ezekiel 37:16-17 of the Bible (the record of Judah). Whatever your course, choose that which you recognize as righteous and good, that is designed to bring happiness and encourage love and forgiveness for all.

    God bless you and keep you safe.

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  67. RonaldB,

    While there are valid comparisons between Communism and Islam, I maintain that on one point the comparison fails:

    Under Communist regimes, it is safe to say that most of the people were not "true believers" and actually wanted to escape to freedom.

    No so under Islam. After familiarizing oneself with the mountain of data out there about Islam and Muslim behaviors, one would be reckless to assume that it is not, in fact, quite the reverse for Islam. Muslims actually desire to be slaves, and consider freedom (as we see it) to be evil.

    The mere fact that millions of Muslims emigrate out of the Dar-al-Islam into the West is only superficial evidence of an indication to disprove my thesis. We would be reckless not to consider that most of those immigrants are in fact invading by bringing Islam with them; not escaping from Islam.

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  68. Liberated,

    May the Peace of Christ be with you, on this day set aside to celebrate His holy birth. As a Catholic I regret that a priest told you he must obey corrupt authorities rather than our Lord.

    Perhaps he feels that a weak Church is better than NO church...

    I pray that God grants you every blessing and protection. Read the Bible, talk to Jesus, and remember the prayer of exorcism that invokes St. Michael, whom God sent to battle Satan:

    "St. Michael the Archangel,
    defend us in battle.
    Be our safeguard against the wickedness and snares of the Devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,
    and do thou,
    O Prince of the heavenly hosts,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan,
    and all the evil spirits,
    who prowl about the world
    seeking the ruin of souls. Amen."

    Liberated, you are in my prayers, night and day.

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  69. Hesperado,

    I have read your posts, and also your "Iron Veil" essay.
    http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2009/05/iron-veil.html
    I am aware of your differences with Jihad Watch.

    I agree with your post here that Muslim immigration is no indication of dissatisfaction with Islam. It has always been my position that all Muslim immigration should be stopped immediately, with specific allowances for apostates like "Liberated". The link I cited to "Liberated" contained a description of a Rumanian refugee who claimed political asylum and was questioned by several officials on his political stance. We need to do the same for apostates, with the additional provision that immigrants claiming to be apostates should be monitored for indications of any continued support for Sharia law.

    Note that I predicted that with democratization, the Muslim countries for the near future will have Islamic, Sharia-compliant governments, like Iran or Saudi Arabia. Indeed, most Muslims will favor that development. Most Muslim countries up to now had an autocratic ruler (dictator or monarch) who mitigated the worst aspects of Islam. With the foreign concept of democracy introduced into the Muslim countries of the Middle East and Asia, the imams and mullahs will hold power, and the unmitigated horrors of Sharia law will be experienced.

    I predict that in the next 50 years, the mullahs will become more vicious in their enforcement of Islamic belief (if that can be imagined), in response to the disgust of the people who have to live in poverty and filth while they see the opulence of the Western countries on their communication devices (assuming we wake up to the dangers of Muslim immigration in time).

    I also agree with your assertion that we should use any force necessary, up to shooting to kill, to protect our borders. We are under no obligation to protect and nurture people who try to enter illegally. I do feel sorry for them, but have no intention of destroying what we have. We can be a political refuge for apostates; not an economic refuge for Muslims. We also should not provide refuge for people who are the wrong type of Islam. The Ismailis and Ahmadis are largely peaceful, and persecuted by mainstream Shites and Sunis, but are still Muslims and provide political support for Islamic organizations in the US. If they want to enter the US, they should give up Islam, lock, stock and barrel.

    I still think that the Arab Spring is closer to the October Revolution than the Prague Spring, and that in the next 50 years, the people in Muslim countries will become disenchanted with Islam. But, with secure borders, if I'm wrong, so what? Muslim countries will never be able to compete in any way with non-Muslim countries, as long as we do not give them military or non-military aid. It is, however, extremely important that our government stop all aid to Muslim countries, particularly countries under popular Islamic governments. The aid allows them to avoid a crisis brought on by the pre-medieval Islamic law.

    I do disagree with you on the treatment, at least in the US, of Muslims who are citizens. Perhaps this is not the place to hash out that argument.

    Let me bring this discussion around. For the moment, apostates like Liberated are in almost precisely the position of refugees from Communism in the 1940's through the '80's. Part of the winning strategy of the US was providing refuge for genuine anti-Communist refugees, who were able to refute from first-hand experience any claim that Communism held any benefits for the average person.

    I go further to say that Liberated can receive inspiration, as well as solid information on planning an escape from a totalitarian society, from studying the stories and history of the people who escaped Communism.

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  70. I hope you have little boys, so the catholic father can spend some private time with them and get to probe them

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  71. Kai,

    Often, when encountering people whose mind has been indoctrinated by others I wished that there existed a "Brain Wash", similar to a Car Wash. Your mind has to first be purged of the propaganda that was forced into it, with your consent, of course, since you were only a child with a tabula rasa that totalitarian supremacists could write on at will. It would be very difficult for you to cleanse your mind of all the lies it now contains. This cleansing would require that you first acknowledge that the ideas and beliefs which now occupy your brain have been placed there by someone else, not yourself. Then, and only then, will you be able to think independently for yourself. And only then will you have something of value to offer the rest of us on this blog. For now you are only taking up space.

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  72. Liberated, you are so brave already. Ask the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to direct you to a house church where you can learn about Jesus. There you will learn that Jesus was and is God, the same God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. His name was Yeshua (Jesus) when He came to earth in human form. He has appeared to many Muslims. Ask Him to appear to you and to bring you a Bible. Once you understand how God loves you and you ask Jesus to come to live in you, you will be truly free ..except not physically as long as you are living in a Muslim country. I will pray for you that God will protect and keep you safe wherever you are.

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  73. Slave of Allah, why do you talk like that? Is that what you have experienced with Muslims?

    Don't be angry! Think for yourself and see if what Liberated is saying is true or false before you condemn him. It is time Muslims began thinking for themselves. Would a true God ask the people He created to kill each other? If he wants someone dead, He can easily do it Himself, can He not? If you look at the story of Muhammad and Islam, you have to agree that Muh never gave proof and no one gave witness of the things he said and decreed. Was he deceived? Or was he the great deceiver? Read what others have to say ...like Ali Sina and others. Don't you want to know what the real truth is? Ask Allah to show you the truth about Muhammad. Muh did too many evil things to be a man of God in my opinion but find out for yourself. Then ask the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob to show you the truth. The root of anger is fear. The only and true God does not give you a spirit of fear but Islam is based on fear. I pray that you will know the truth that will set you free. God has already blessed you. Receive that blessing.

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  74. Congratulations that you have seen the LIGHT because Muhammadan Islam is perpetual DARKNESS.
    You listed several very important authors about Muhammad but you have missed one of the most prolific on this subject who was born in Iraq (his mother tongue is Arabic) who had spent 30 years researching the sordid subjects of the CULT of Muhammad, his Quran, his Sunna, Sharia, etc producing 780 chapters, 310 audio/videos, over 240 LIVE radio interviews and over one hundred published articles on line all over the world. Just Google 'alrassooli' and you will have a treasure of astounding revelations.
    This my contribution to your education, salvation and with my best wishes.

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  75. Ronald B... Your writing shows how little you understand about Islam altho' you do have some understanding ...as I also do. You say, "If they want to enter the US, they should give up Islam, lock, stock and barrel." The US and other free nations should allow absolutely NO ONE in from Muslim countries ..if they don't want to be Islamized. It is like letting a bunch of people in who have the black plague. I would love to let Liberated into my country but if we say they can come in if they are not Muslims then they will all say they are not Muslims and then they would reconvert to Islam once they had citizenship. In Islam it is ok to lie 'for the sake of Allah'. If it were up to me, nobody from a Muslim country would be allowed into the country PERIOD ..for any reason. Why do I say that? Because it is the only way to keep Islam out. I wish I could say the good Muslims can come but not the bad. There is no way to tell which is which. How would an Immigration Officer know who is lying and who is not. As long as they embrace Islam, they are all bad because Islam is evil. I wish it were not so but it is. The Koran is filled with promoting hatred, terror, deceit, killing and all manner of evil that only could come from Satan. Liberated would agree.

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  76. Hello Liberated ...I want to agree with others here that Jesus/God loves you. I would like to add that He loves ALL Muslims in the place where they are right now. He loves even the terrorists. He created us all even those who are not following Him. He loves all but He cannot come to live His life in them unless they allow it and invite Him in ..but He still loves them and you. Are you aware of the site called biblegateway.com? There are online Bibles in several different languages and a number of different English translations. Ask the Lord to direct you to the right translation for you. The best way to learn the truth is to stay with the Bible for a year or two. Then when you read other books, you will be able to tell which are counterfeit. Banks often train new employees with real money only for a given length of time. It is found that once they are conditioned to real money, later they quickly can tell when a bill is counterfeit. So it is with the Bible. God has blessed you and will continue to bless you.

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  77. Everyone lives in fear. Even the priests, even the pastors, everyone fears that they get imprisoned for converting, or for even helping a convert. Our children would be taken away from us, by law, if they find out we converted. We would never see them again.

    I understand the frustration, of not even being able to attend Mass without the fear of being caught. An awful way to live, this double life.

    May God help us all.

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  78. q_bmc,

    Do you advocate excluding from immigration Copts or other Christians from Egypt, who have a history with Christianity for thousands of years? You said you would allow NO ONE to immigrate from Muslim lands.

    I agree with you that Muslims would pretend to be apostates. I think that it would be possible to tell real apostates with some degree of accuracy. Also, I advocated following them up for years, and to deport them if they ever advocate any form of Sharia once they are inside.

    There is nothing that says we have to allow EVERY apostate into the US. But, for the US to maintain its status as a haven of freedom, it is important to allow in some, just as we allowed in refugees from Communism.

    Of course, Castro took advantage of just that trait, and dumped all the criminals of Cuba into the US when the US naively allowed all Cuban refugees entry. So, you're correct that we have to be very careful in our immigration policy. But, since correctly done, a sensible immigration policy is a potent ideological weapon (and ideas count very heavily), it would be a mistake to shut off all immigration from Muslim countries.

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    1. I would like to see Christians from these countries be allowed asylum or to immigrate but I don't know how you could tell the difference. Do you know that right now under Obama, it is Muslims from Muslim countries who are allowed in and Christians are refused. Listen to videos at UTube by Osama Dakdok, an Egyptian Christian.

      I have known for years now that Muslims are liars and deceitful. Now Liberated is confirming it. Imagine my disappointment when I discovered how my Muslim friend tried to trick me about her religion. Her motive was to get me to convert but Muslims lie continually even about the least little thing. It is like it is inborn or something. Actually it is demon possession.

      If there was a way to prevent those of the Muslim faith into the country, then, of course, I would agree to let in the apostates, Christians and other religions. But I don't know how it would be possible especially with the apostates.

      Remember, Muslims breed like flies and can change a country's demographics very quickly. What is happening in the US and other western countries is that a Muslim man will marry a woman and have several children with her. Then he will divorce her legally but in his heart and mind she is still his wife because Islam takes precedence over the laws of the land. Then he marries another woman and produces children while he is still producing children with the first wife. He is allowed 4 wives in Islam so he marries 2 more and legally divorces all but one of them. He keeps producing children with all of them. He could have fathered as many as 6 to 8 from each one or more. Very quickly the population has more and more Muslims. And adding to the insult, he can afford to do this because 3 of his 4 wives are on welfare thus we paying for everything to Islamize the country. See how it goes?

      The biggest mistake we make is letting Muslims immigrate into our countries. There are plenty of people in Britain, Germany, Sweden, France, etc who would tell how big a mistake it was. I think Liberated One would agree.

      I do hope Liberated One and those like her will be able to get free and find asylum even in my country. I am praying for her.

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  79. @Slave of Allah said...
    I hope you have little boys, so the catholic father can spend some private time with them and get to probe them
    December 25, 2011 10:36 PM

    So, Mohammed marrying a 6 year old when he was 54 and thighing her until the age of 9 is not disgusting to you? At least every Christian in the world was up in arms about it. All mohammedans do is sell more of their little girls into marriages with paedophiles.

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  80. I will commit you to my prayers, and will let my Christian brothers and sisters know to do the same. The Lord Jesus Christ is knocking on the door of your heart and calling you to follow Him. Open that door and let Him in. If you can find a Bible, please read the book of John, in the New Testament. I pray that the Holy Spirit will come to you and give you understanding of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    God bless you, friend.

    In Christ Jesus,
    Jeanne
    Sterling, VA, USA

    December 26, 2011

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  81. Dear Liberated One,

    There is only one real God. He has communicated Himself to us through nature, our conscience and the Bible. He says, "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God," and
    "the wages (penalty) of sin is death." That means eternal, spiritual death in the lake of fire, or hell. But since "the Lord "is not willing that any should perish," "He (God) hath made Him (Jesus) to be sin for us, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him." Even though we were the ones deserving of death and Jesus was sinless, our sins were laid on Him and He died in our place, but three days later He rose from the grave to eternal life. God promises us, "that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life." That's the Good News of the gospel.

    All the religions of the world believe man can earn his way to heaven by his good works. If that was true, there would've been no need for Jesus to have come to earth! He said, "I am the way, the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father except by Me." All we have to do is believe; He's the Savior. It's the relationship with Christ that saves; not counting rosary beads, meditating or spending all day in church.

    All the other religions preach false Christs. Mormons say Jesus is the devil's brother. Catholics make Mary superior to Jesus and believe the pope is God on earth. When the disciples asked Jesus how they'd know when His Second Coming was near, He warned them there would be deception. What a great word to describe our time. The Bible also pophesied great apostasy in the end times. All over the world, churches are falling prey to it because the Bible is no longer read. The King James is closest to the original manuscripts; the others leave out even crucial verses.

    If you choose to follow Jesus, all you need to do is pray. Ask Him to save you from hell and help you turn from sin in your life. Thank Him for dying on the cross for you. He'll give you a new heart, write your name in the Book of Life and give you the peace that passes all understanding. Although your problems appear huge to us, He knows all the stars by name so believe that as His child, He will take a loving personal interest in helping you with all your problems. Once you're saved, all anyone can ever threaten you with again is heaven! I'll be praying for you too.

    Here are three websites that might help you:
    Arabsforisrael.com (particularly the resources)
    Shoebat.com
    Koome Ministries

    To Kai: Since you'll be a spirit when you die, how can you enjoy 72 virgins in heaven and how can a Muslim ever even be sure they're getting into to heaven when they die?

    Atheism: belief than nothing created everything out of nothing for no particular reason.

    Atheist: "I know beyond all possible doubt that which is unknowable, based on a total lack of evidence in support of my position."

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  82. @Kai,

    Why do you follow a genocidal pedophile? What kind of "god" would make such a monster its apostle?

    @Liberated One,

    You are right: There is a God, He is compassionate and merciful, and no, it is not Allah.

    Here's a brief summary I like to share with both Muslims and non-Muslims:

    Islam's "Ideal Man" Muhammad -- Allah's "beautiful pattern of conduct" for those who want to please him -- preached and practiced genocide, pedophilia, rape, slavery, torture, mutilation, theft, extortion, wife-beating, polygyny, religious and gender apartheid, deceit, blasphemy, and treason, warning his devotees that "Allah made me do it, and you will too, or else!"

    On the other hand, the Son of God committed no sin, spoke only the truth, healed the sick, raised the dead, died for the sins of the whole world, and resurrected. He gave the world the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule and forgives all sins, rescues from death and the devil, and gives eternal salvation to all who trust in Him.

    Christ does all this for you.

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  83. Theism: belief that an unknowable undetectable non-conceptual consciousness that appeared out of nowhere and out of nothing, then created everything out of nothing and all of it was done specifically for humans, whom that immaterial supernatural consciousness likes to tyrannize and play with, like some psychotic capricious genocidal fascist dictator who "loves" his slaves and exterminates dissidents.

    Atheist: an intellectually honest individual, who rejects the preposterous unsubstantiated claims of irrational and immoral totalitarian theistic mythology, but generally respects and has nothing against the deistic worldview.


    Please, Liberated One, be careful and don't make a mistake. After escaping from the grip of islamic insanity don't rush to join another fan club of ancient Middle-Eastern mythology and delusional groupthink.

    All organized revelationist religions are bankrupt, both philosophically and scientifically.

    Don't sacrifice your reason and honesty for a membership in some collective. Rational, ethical, independent Deism is probably the best philosophical worldview for you, it seems.
    Only you can decide, of course. Just be careful and don't abandon your noble search for the truth.

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  84. @anj

    You mohammadans are none too bright and would bite the hand that feeds you.

    "Just seen this link on "norway massacre" linked robert spencers site jihad watch. Well done blogger, he uses you as a tool. Is this one of those fake blogs???????? Like the syrian lesbian who went missing and there was almost a diplomatic incident between syria and the US. It turned out it was some US male redneck studying in scotland."

    That American male "redneck" is actually a progressive leftard who is PRO musloid immigration, is probably camping out with a keffiyeh around his neck and fakestinian flag in hand at one of the ows mobs. That ahole would scream racism for anyone of us condoning you for your attacks on Liberated.

    Cheese and crackers but you musloids are dumber than...rednecks.

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  85. Excellent post Ronald. I agree, wholeheartedly with you. May Liberated stay wise, and keep her freedom to herself, until she is safely away from those that would kill her.

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  86. Kai56,

    She shouldquietly practice her religion? Kind of hypocritical, wouldnt you say? Muslims do not - they FORCE their religion onto others, or punish them for not doing so.

    Oh and going against Islam "will get you hurt". I thought Islam was a religion of peace and tolerance. What's with the threats? Why the need to practice silently?

    This is why people do not like Islam. Its the only religion that FORCES others to convert, be silent, join them, pay a tax - if not the consequences are death.

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  87. Greetings in the name of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I was directed to this blog via David Woods blog.

    I wanted to send you a note of encouragement and caustion.

    I have not read the comments on this post or on this blog and if ohters have covered this then I apologies for repeating.

    You wrote...

    "The priest said he could not help me personally, but that I was more than welcome to attend the mass and sit quietly at the back. He said, “Do not talk to anyone or reveal who you are.” It is a good idea, but frankly, I am not sure if I want to do that every week, because last Sunday I saw quite a few police cars circling the church premises, and I am really scared. "

    A couple of things, the priest was wise very wise indeed. As your response is as well. In the USA where I live we have every Sunday emotional "alter calls" where people come up to "Be saved" so freely and only to leave later becasue their faith was based on emontional feeling. We often loose sight of the fact that coming to Christ is a dangerious thing.

    Your realization that you are not only endagering your life but also the lives of those that attend that chuch speaks volumes.

    I don't know if you have been back I would sugest you keep keep going back, possibly visit other churches so as not to set up a routine.

    Keep your witts about you know your surrondings as you seem to have demonstrated. Remember for every police car you see their may be other police that you do not see. Have a reason for being in the area of the church. Do not lie but visit a shop in the area make that a routine.

    But most importantly PRAY.

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  88. PLEASE READ THIS
    ok so i dont blame you for your point of view because everyone deserves their own opinion
    however being a muslim myself who has recieved a lot of support and love from God i think that i should speek for Islam
    DONT STOP READING THIS NOW THAT IM DISAGREEING WITH YOU
    islam is the religion of peace
    i grew up in england, and came to pakistan for a few years and all i heard in my Islamiath class was that i had to fear Allah
    however ive never been able to adopt this fear, God is like a father to me (my own father is a douche) im not a typical muslim i run around islamabad in micro-mini-skirts and tight dresses, i wear make up, ive even dated boys, i dont read the Quran in arabic BUT I NEVER MISS A PRAYER ( im only 16)
    yet God is always with me and whenever anyone needs help in my family and friends they come to me to pray for them, because God has blessed me with a connection with Him (my prayers are answered almost immediately)
    i too have read the quran in English, and i see your point, my sentiments were exactly the same!
    the quran has been glorified by its followers which say that the Quran has never been altered since it was sent for us, however the Prophets PBUH followers did infact edit it
    so now it is a contridictory mess
    Islam crushing your soul has nothing to do with God or the Holy Prophet pbuh, its follwers are under some illusion, which has been created by being constantly under attack by others (do you understand urdu? if so then watch the movie My Name is Khan)
    and i dont appreciate people who don't know anything about Islam calling Muslims dregs etc.
    Dear america: your 9/11 is our 24/7
    dont blame the action of one man on millions of people
    we are a peaceful religion
    BTW wether you believe in Muhammad PBUH or not, we belive in Jesus, Moses, Abraham and many more, and share the same story of creation
    we all belive in one, all powerful God (except for Hindus) so why are we even arguing??????

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  89. you talk about how evil the quran is but have you read the bible?
    it is pretty evil too this is one of the passages
    E 25:17:
    And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.
    so will you follows the Jews know???
    i think you're trying to punish soeone else by not wanting to be a Muslim (your parents perhaps?) and not actually afraid of muslims

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